02-24-2022, 06:25 PM
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#581
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What a hockey player thinks about all of this is simply not important enough to take up this much of peoples' time.
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02-24-2022, 06:27 PM
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#582
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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a friend just told me that the Kyiv airport is back under Ukrainian control?
Jeez. Wouldn't that me a modern day miracle for little Ukraine to hold up the evil Russian bear. I know it's fantasy stuff based on numbers but bigger upsets have happened. Think 2004 when the Flames beat the Lightning in game 6.
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02-24-2022, 06:27 PM
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#583
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Reading through this thread and some of the comments, I really don't think a lot of Canadians realize just how privileged we are.
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02-24-2022, 06:28 PM
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#584
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
a friend just told me that the Kyiv airport is back under Ukrainian control?
Jeez. Wouldn't that me a modern day miracle for little Ukraine to hold up the evil Russian bear. I know it's fantasy stuff based on numbers but bigger upsets have happened. Think 2004 when the Flames beat the Lightning in game 6.
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Yeah sounds like it. The Russian heli troops weren't able to be re-enforced and eventually got overwhelmed
https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...&postcount=551
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02-24-2022, 06:35 PM
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#585
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The airport that has rebuffed the Russian attack is Antonov airport, also called Gostomel airport, which is a cargo airport near Kiev. It isn't the international airport that services Kiev - that apparently is Boryspil airport. I haven't seen any news about Boryspil. There's also an airport really close to the center of Kiev apparently, I assume that one's not been attacked, given its location.
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02-24-2022, 06:36 PM
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#586
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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02-24-2022, 06:38 PM
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#587
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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More effectively spread fear before really pushing the offensive?
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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02-24-2022, 06:38 PM
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#588
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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I've been pondering the outcomes, and while a forthcoming Cold War 2.0 or WW3 are certainly possibilities, my gut tells me that the result will be total mutiny by the Russian Military. It may take time for it to get organized, but all the factors seem to be leading to it. It won't be a public assemby of dissenting factions, but rather a surgical reversal of Moscow's influence by honourable people presently in positions of military power. Russia doesn't have the absolute indoctrination or total censorship of a place like North Korea or The Third Reich... rather their populace is well aware of the corruption and authoritarian manipulation and simply waiting for a catalyst. I believe we are about to see the second Russian Revolution. The Russian state's greatest strength - its nuclear capability - is only an asset in international diplomacy. The thought of a nuclear civil war is unfathomable, and that very fact is what will cause them to finally be ready for the Perestroika that was once promised, yet never delivered.
Or maybe that's all just the optimist in me speaking.
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02-24-2022, 06:41 PM
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#589
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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02-24-2022, 06:42 PM
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#590
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Reading through this thread and some of the comments, I really don't think a lot of Canadians realize just how privileged we are.
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I got secondhand anxiety last night just seeing the images and hearing the accounts of people in Ukraine and putting myself in their position.
Reached out to my family and friends and checked in on them just as I would if it was happening here.
Suddenly (at least for a few hours) hockey, the COVID/mandate stuff, none of it mattered.
I didn't even want to participate in the E=NG thread.
If there are people here that didn't experience at least a little bit of that too, then they're either wired differently from how am, or they just don't have the same appreciation for how precious our secure and gratuitous lifestyles are in North America.
I don't know if I envy or pity those individuals.
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02-24-2022, 06:43 PM
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#591
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A major conflict during the social media information age. Hard to find victories and defeats after one day. This could last a very long time unfortunately.
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02-24-2022, 06:43 PM
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#592
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Welp, this isn't a great sign.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ort/ar-AAUaWmm
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In the Weibo post, Horizon News stated that any content painting Russia unfavorably would not be published. The same applied to any pro-Western framing, according to The Post.
"Simply put, China has to back Russia up with emotional and moral support while refraining from treading on the toes of the United States and European Union," Ming Jinwei, a senior editor at the Xinhua News Agency, wrote in a WeChat blog cited by The Post. Xinhua is the official press agency of the Chinese government.
"In the future, China will also need Russia's understanding and support when wrestling with America to solve the Taiwan issue once and for all," the editor later added.
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02-24-2022, 06:47 PM
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#593
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappy
Yeah, i was skeptical of videos alleging Ukrainian planes as they would essentially have Russian made fighters and im not sure i or some twitter account could tell the difference. But it sounds like the airforce did take part in regaining control of the airport.
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If the footage is decent you can tell. For example this title says Russian planes but they're clearly Ukrainian
https://streamable.com/tiia57
And some Ukrainian Hinds
https://streamable.com/668m28
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02-24-2022, 06:49 PM
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#594
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Scoring Winger
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One has to ask oneself, if the scripts were flipped and say Russia wanted to form a military alliance with say Mexico, how would us Canadians/Americans feel about it?
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02-24-2022, 06:50 PM
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#595
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
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Imagine if you run into them on some Ukrainian street, you're unarmed, and you're on the wrong side of this invasion... welcome to hand-to-hand combat with a Klitschko - you are so dead.
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02-24-2022, 06:51 PM
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#597
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChief
One has to ask oneself, if the scripts were flipped and say Russia wanted to form a military alliance with say Mexico, how would us Canadians/Americans feel about it?
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I dont know, we've put up with Cuba for my whole life, 60 years.
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02-24-2022, 06:52 PM
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#598
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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BBC reporting initial sanction details announced by the EU commission that are mirrored by US, Canada, South Korea and Japan. 5 main pillars of sanctions targeting Putin and Oligarchs
-Financial - Eliminates financial market access to 70% of Russian banks and state owned energy and defense companies. No more deposits into European banks by Russian elites.
-Energy - Oil and gas sanctions designed to elimate Russias ability to upgrade their crude oil
-Transport - immediate ban of all aircraft and spare parts to Russian airlines and ban of Aeroflot.
-Export controls and financing - All cutting and and semi conductor export and financing to Russia is now banned
-Visa restrictions - Diplomats and Russian business man no longer have any privileged access
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02-24-2022, 06:53 PM
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#599
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChief
One has to ask oneself, if the scripts were flipped and say Russia wanted to form a military alliance with say Mexico, how would us Canadians/Americans feel about it?
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Good point, we probably would make up rumors of Mexicans committing genocide against Americans and then invading. Totally
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02-24-2022, 06:54 PM
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#600
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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If Ukrainian air is still up, communications still functioning, I dont know this looks like Russia has ####ed up big time
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