As this clip was finishing on my computer my TV showed a clip of Jason Kenney rambling against the emergency act and I think talking about sending money to civil liberties orgs. I feel really sad and furious at the same time.
We have had dozens of huge, peaceful protests in Alberta against the UCP's BS. I really, really wish I could have a few minutes alone with Kenney to berate him in the same way as those morons above, but sadly, I'm better than that.
But not that much better than that...#### that ####ing ####head.
He's suing just as it breaks that he had to beg Ottawa Daddy for help with Coutts.
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Doesn't matter what side you're on, using a Youtube video or podcast or something that you saw on social media to prove your point and proclaiming that the 'whole world' sees it that way is just pretty ridiculous.
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There are a few million people (maybe?) in Canada, that don't think the Liberals are lunatics in their handling of this situation. The rest of the world has no such illusions.
I'd like to see their takes on this after living in downtown Ottawa or running a business there through 21 days of this.
Very easy to dismiss the negative effects of the protest from afar. It's been much more than "an annoyance".
And you have leaders of this movement talking about strong arming Trudeau into resignation and assuming power. Sounds like a necessary situation to invoke the act to me.
In the context of this day and age, this is a significant impedance to the order of things and certainly has broken a variety laws along the way, even if a portion of the crowd is peaceful. Peaceful hasn't equated with lawful.
Doesn't matter what side you're on, using a Youtube video or podcast or something that you saw on social media to prove your point and proclaiming that the 'whole world' sees it that way is just pretty ridiculous.
Well, you can find the podcast interesting or not. As I said it's just a data point. But I think even a casual look at the international media will see a pretty consistent response - the international community is astounded at the extremes that Trudeau has employed to handle the protests.
Doesn't matter what side you're on, using a Youtube video or podcast or something that you saw on social media to prove your point and proclaiming that the 'whole world' sees it that way is just pretty ridiculous.
Just because you hear the most noise from one contingent doesn't mean they comprise the majority.
It means they're the loudest.
What school of logic do some of you come from...
The rest of the world is dealing with its own situations. Do you think people half way across the globe honestly care about what's transpiring here? Thinking that you're preaching to a choir across the globe that comprises the majority of oppressed souls that think the same way as you is some kind of egocentric thinking.
Well, you can find the podcast interesting or not. As I said it's just a data point. But I think even a casual look at the international media will see a pretty consistent response - the international community is astounded at the extremes that Trudeau has employed to handle the protests.
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I'd like to see their takes on this after living in downtown Ottawa or running a business there through 21 days of this.
Very easy to dismiss the negative effects of the protest from afar. It's been much more than "an annoyance".
And you have leaders of this movement talking about strong arming Trudeau into resignation and assuming power. Sounds like a necessary situation to invoke the act to me.
In the context of this day and age, this is a significant impedance to the order of things and certainly has broken a variety laws along the way, even if a portion of the crowd is peaceful. Peaceful hasn't equated with lawful.
The protests themselves are far less interesting than the dynamic of the response. They could be arguing about declaring the color green the national color.
The interesting piece of the response is the policies which did not exhaust the existing laws. As with Trudeau's rhetoric around the protest themselves, he immediately dialed it up to 11.
Well, you can find the podcast interesting or not. As I said it's just a data point. But I think even a casual look at the international media will see a pretty consistent response - the international community is astounded at the extremes that Trudeau has employed to handle the protests.
Here's an article from November about protests in Europe where Belgian police used water cannons and year gas. And Netherlands police fired guns during a protest
Just like you didn't care about these events which have been much more violent than our action against the protests, the world doesn't care about our reaction to these protesters.
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I think my favorite part of the podcast is that they're going on about how the EMA wasn't needed as mandates are being lifted as we're at the end of COVID... then what the bloody hell are they protesting?!
There was a lot of nonsensical things like Canada not exhausting all options first, because we didn't use the RICO Act (which, for the record, is American).
Seriously, everyone should watch the train wreck, it's awesome.
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Just because you hear the most noise from one contingent doesn't mean they comprise the majority.
It means they're the loudest.
What school of logic do some of you come from...
The rest of the world is dealing with its own situations. Do you think people half way across the globe honestly care about what's transpiring here? Thinking that you're preaching to a choir across the globe that comprises the majority of oppressed souls that think the same way as you is some kind of egocentric thinking.
Possibly someone in Australia is ranting about slippery slope loss of freedom on their rugby forum, posting tweets about happenings here in Canada, and then getting debunked and put in their place by Aussie PepsiFree.
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Just a data point. Canada is basically a laughing stock at this point for the support the public has shown for binning our rights.
At any rate, I did like their point that this situation and Trudeau's handling of it is basically the death throes of woke culture. I would say it's woke culture jumping the shark.
Wtf is a data point?
A curated YouTube video to show a couple dudes support the protests or are down on police response.
My God you're a charlatan.
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I think my favorite part of the podcast is that they're going on about how the EMA wasn't needed as mandates are being lifted as we're at the end of COVID... then what the bloody hell are they protesting?!
There was a lot of nonsensical things like Canada not exhausting all options first, because we didn't use the RICO Act (which, for the record, is American).
Seriously, everyone should watch the train wreck, it's awesome.
I would consider CP to be non-typical. It's a very leftie/woke/SJW community that posts in this sub.
It's not quite R/Alberta level of collective pearl clutching, but it's not far off.
People that protest for the colour green would do so lawfully like every one else in a park or on a sidewalk for an afternoon. They don't hold the movement of goods and service hostage, shut down businesses and disrupt city residents for weeks on end.
Equating this with just another every day protest is just downright bonkers.
And look how difficult these people are making these measures? A number of them still won't leave despite occupying the grounds being made illegal.
They're proving that extreme measures needed to be taken.
If they had followed the words of King to stay within the boundaries of the law through their protest and therefore submitted and followed police orders then they would've proven yours and their point (that it was more extreme than necessary too soon).
They didn't, therefore they're showing that this was in fact necessary in order to restore order to the local area.
Do you think the truckers would've listened and moved on with less harsh means? Of ####ing course they wouldn't have.
This forum is about as reasonable a place as you can find on the internet.
Which is admittedly non-typical.
What I love about the political threads here is the perspective.
CP is definiately NOT a left wing, SJW, place. People are respectful and will debate an issue, which shouldn't be mistaken as left.
CP posters here veer right. What they don't do is veer alt-right.
As a Nova Scotian, we look at federal Conservatives like people in Alberta look at the federal NDP.
This place is right of centre, but self-aware enough to call it down the middle and understand that sometimes the enemy (Karen Konvoy) of their enemy (Trudeau) can also be their enemy.
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I wonder if the convoy supporters would have minded if the federal government used the Emergencies Act to override the provincial mandates. Probably not is my guess.
I really don't think it's the government overreach that is the issue. It's just that the government isn't doing what they want it to do.
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Friendly reminder that BoLevi is the same poster who suggested we take away the health coverage for the unvaccinated.
But now he’s upset over their rights.
He’s a troll whose only rightful place on CP is on your ignore list.
You want to cancel him?! You monster!!!!
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I wonder if the convoy supporters would have minded if the federal government used the Emergencies Act to override the provincial mandates. Probably not is my guess.
I really don't think it's the government overreach that is the issue. It's just that the government isn't doing what they want it to do.
These are people who will go along with anything, no matter how heinous, so long as it's the opposite of Trudeau. Gotta own the libs!
Kind of like how the alt-right wants every person who may have been in a coffee shop ordering a cup to go at the same time as Jeffrey Epstien or Ghislaine Maxwell should be to be hung by their thumbs... but not Trump, he's cool.
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