Also can you imagine watching hockey without forward passing.
Let me tell you something Sonny. I remember going to a game in 19 ough 17 between the Montreal Canadians and the Toronto Blueshirts. I bought a ticket for a 2 pence that I had saved up for by working in the mines using my 8 year old baby sized hands to clear obstructions in the machines. I remember the 30 day ride by wagon train to get to that game while suffering from black lung.
That game was a site to see I tells you, it was about 90 below and we used dogs as blankets to keep us warm. There was no forward pass, and there were 6 skaters to a side plus the goalie. I remember when Joe Malone went behind the net to pick up the puck and sliced the toes off of the goal judges boots. He swung around the net and was stopped on a brilliant defensive play by Rusty Crawford who spit tabacco juice in his face and stole the puck.
The forward pass and all of these new fangled la dee da ideas have just ruined the purity of the game.
Now get off my lawn.
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Thanks for the reminder - I knew I had a bet with Ziggy and that the trigger was 200 goals, but I couldn't remember what we bet.
My next question is to you, Scorp...
We were discussing points from the defense, but I am not sure if we ever made an actual bet - did we? I vaguely recall the number on that being 120 total points for the season. And they are currently sitting at 116 so they could break it as early as Saturday.
Also can you imagine watching hockey without forward passing.
A couple of years ago, I came across an old newsreel video from one of the early Olympics that showed part of one of the hockey games.
I don't think it was this video because the one I remember had that old overly dramatic newsreel voice over and this one doesn't, but it's the same idea...
The hockey starts about 1 hour and 10 minutes in.
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The 200 goals thing was the worst take in CP history...and he would double, triple, quadruple down on it after all the early wins. On what planet was this team going to be one of the lowest scoring rosters in Flames history.
He wouldn't take my bet, congrats on all the free money
that's how i saw it too and the goal helps Mony more than it does Lindholm
I suppose it helps his stats. But in his head, maybe it makes no difference. Maybe just knowing he was there to get the goal if needed is just as good. His play was the same either way. I thought that line looked good again, though because of penalties they didn’t get the same chances as the previous game.
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Thanks for the reminder - I knew I had a bet with Ziggy and that the trigger was 200 goals, but I couldn't remember what we bet.
My next question is to you, Scorp...
We were discussing points from the defense, but I am not sure if we ever made an actual bet - did we? I vaguely recall the number on that being 120 total points for the season. And they are currently sitting at 116 so they could break it as early as Saturday.
I don't remember ever discussing such a bet. I do remember saying I thought the Flames could allow 250 goals this season, which looks hilarious now.
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I think that guy was the most wrong about anything I've ever seen on this website. I hope he doesn't ghost you.
That's a bit harsh. It wasn't unreasonable to think that the Flames might struggle a bit offensively, or that the focus on being better defensively might bring down the goal total.
On a site where the likes of WhereRUChris O'Sullivan had Backlund pegged for the KHL by 2011, this seems pretty mild. The poster does appear to have some decent causes in mind with the bet too.
At this stage goals per game is at the highest level it's been since the 05-06 season. I would expect that number will trend down in the last 35 games or so to come closer to what it was in 2018-19 which was the last full 82 game season.
At the start of the season I think I claimed that if the Flames could score 220 or more goals, they would make the playoffs. Every year it seems like I do projections you try to be guarded with those, add up the numbers and the total astounds you and you need to go back and adjust everything down. So far most players are actually projecting at the ranges I would have had, and a few are well above that. The goals from the defence is the biggest surprise to me. At the start of the year it was hard to find much offence back there to the point where 25 total seemed a bit optimistic. Not that it's a bad group of players, but looked more like say the 03-04 group which combined for 26 and going into the season didn't have that estalished 10+ goal and 40+ point contributor. I certainly would not have thought the team to have this many goals and that of the top 6 guys...Rasmus Andersson would be dead last.
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Also, that thread is a great read. Some posters were on tilt all summer but interesting to read the ones who had a level head going into the season. Some great predictions.
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Also, that thread is a great read. Some posters were on tilt all summer but interesting to read the ones who had a level head going into the season. Some great predictions.
Of the 23 guys on the team for opening night, I predicted that the Flames had 15 guys that belonged on an NHL roster. I also thought it would be a real long (i.e. tough, boring, frustrating) year.
Of those 23, now I’d say 18 of those original 23 guys belong, with Dubé and Monahan only getting re-added to the NHLer pile this week. Plus adding Toffoli and getting Ruzicka up gives the Flames an NHLer in every spot every night.
The Flames have done an excellent job at playing their good players and keeping their scraps out of high-leverage situations.
Now I think the Flames will be having a long (i.e. many playoff games) year.
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I think people need to look around the league at other rosters...there are 32 teams in this league now
Dube and Monahan not NHLers until last week lol
There's this perception that good team needs 3 first line guys all with 70+ points, 3 2nd line guys all with 55+ points, and 6 bottom sixers all with 30ish points.
In reality, no team ever has been built with that perfect makeup.
And how is it debatable that Dube and Monahan were not NHLers to start the season? Monahan is currently overpaid for what he is bringing, but he's also been put in a secondary role by Sutter. The issue isn't with him as an NHL player, it's with his contract. Even as contracts go, if you compare it to team's around the league it's hardly that bad. 1 year left and probably a couple million overpaid.
The Flames have two bad contracts in Monahan and Lucic. Even then, neither is really all that high and both expire next year.
As far as play goes, the Flames have a legit player in every position on the team. Trevor Lewis is the lowest producing forward, and even he is great as a #12 forward with lots of veteran leadership.
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I think people need to look around the league at other rosters...there are 32 teams in this league now
Dube and Monahan not NHLers until last week lol
28 of those teams are not teams to aspire to be equal to. Trash teams are not the benchmark for how good your bottom sixers should be. You need to aim at the cup teams of the world to set yourself up for success. At least 8 of the guys that made the opening night roster wouldn’t have made most cup teams, and Monahan and Dubé would have been scratched by now with how they were playing (almost entirely not their fault, just because they’ve been playing 4v5 for most of the year).
At the start of the season I thought Dubé and Monahan were good NHLers. Watching them play with Brett Ritchie I stopped believing that for a while.
But the Flames have a good roster now. It’s full of actual good hockey players, and the gamebreakers are showing they’re on the same level as the best guys in the league. They need to keep doing it and keep striving to be the best. They haven’t accomplished any thing but they are putting themselves in the right position to do so in the spring.
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28 of those teams are not teams to aspire to be equal to. Trash teams are not the benchmark for how good your bottom sixers should be. You need to aim at the cup teams of the world to set yourself up for success. At least 8 of the guys that made the opening night roster wouldn’t have made most cup teams, and Monahan and Dubé would have been scratched by now with how they were playing (almost entirely not their fault, just because they’ve been playing 4v5 for most of the year).
At the start of the season I thought Dubé and Monahan were good NHLers. Watching them play with Brett Ritchie I stopped believing that for a while.
But the Flames have a good roster now. It’s full of actual good hockey players, and the gamebreakers are showing they’re on the same level as the best guys in the league. They need to keep doing it and keep striving to be the best. They haven’t accomplished any thing but they are putting themselves in the right position to do so in the spring.
Move the goalposts much?
you said "not NHLers"
by your logic there are 4 NHL teams lol
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