02-15-2022, 08:40 AM
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#781
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Elkyiv
Is there any chance TT is moved to the first line, and Tkachuk moves to Monahan's line to help him get his game back?
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I highly doubt it.
You don't separate the best line in hockey to help out another guy. If anything, Toffoli can help Monahan get going.
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02-15-2022, 08:41 AM
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#782
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkyiv
Is there any chance TT is moved to the first line, and Tkachuk moves to Monahan's line to help him get his game back?
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You dont steal the battery from the Cadillac so you can start the K car while requiring Caddy to get you where you want to go.
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02-15-2022, 08:42 AM
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#783
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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For those saying the Flames are now "all-in" because they traded a first, I don't believe that is true at all. If they trade at least two of Pelletier, Zary, Coronato, and Wolf then yes they are definitely all-in at that point. BTW I don't believe they will do that.
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02-15-2022, 08:44 AM
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#784
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkyiv
Is there any chance TT is moved to the first line, and Tkachuk moves to Monahan's line to help him get his game back?
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Why break up what is arguably one of the hottest lines in the league right now.
It makes no sense.
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02-15-2022, 08:46 AM
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#785
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I would have Toffoli with Monahan and Dube, kind of like that 70's line, with Carter and Monahan both shooters, Dube can bring some speed. Maybe Toffoli can get Monahan going again.
I don't think you mess with the chemistry you have in the top 6.
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02-15-2022, 08:47 AM
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#786
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Why break up what is arguably one of the hottest lines in the league right now.
It makes no sense.
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You are slightly degrading one line in an effort to revive another. Can the team afford to have Monahan put up 7 goals through 45 games?
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02-15-2022, 08:50 AM
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#787
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkyiv
You are slightly degrading one line in an effort to revive another. Can the team afford to have Monahan put up 7 goals through 45 games?
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If the top line cools off and the team starts to struggle then yes maybe you make a move.
At this point you have a red hot line (the top line). In my opinion you look at putting Toffoli into a position that gives you another hot line.
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02-15-2022, 08:52 AM
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#788
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scobel
I would have Toffoli with Monahan and Dube, kind of like that 70's line, with Carter and Monahan both shooters, Dube can bring some speed. Maybe Toffoli can get Monahan going again.
I don't think you mess with the chemistry you have in the top 6.
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Wish Sutter would swap 23 and 29. Dube is the better puck distrubutor and the better two way player, not that he's amazing at either just the better of the two IMO.
Regardless the three are talented players and on a third line they should be able to produce. Toffoli should be PP time to offset being on a traditional third line.
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02-15-2022, 08:54 AM
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#789
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
Toffoli has 0.70 P/GP. Coleman has 0.45. Admittedly it's a simplistic argument, but surely Toffoli has to have a role in the top 6.
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Coleman has 12 points in his last 15 GP. Surely his current production shows just how good he is, and now the Flames can ice arguably two second lines.
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02-15-2022, 08:55 AM
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#790
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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Dube was picking up Valentine’s Day flowers in front of me today (spoilers!)
He was pretty pumped about the add of Tof
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that is pretty cool.
Lucic picks him up at the airport and Dube buys him flowers.
What a way to welcome a new guy to the team.
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02-15-2022, 08:55 AM
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#791
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rhino
Pelletier is not getting brought up
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I expect him to spend the Spring in Calgary.
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02-15-2022, 08:56 AM
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#792
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
Toffoli has 0.70 P/GP. Coleman has 0.45. Admittedly it's a simplistic argument, but surely Toffoli has to have a role in the top 6.
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Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk --> the best overall line in all of hockey
Mangiapane - Backlund - Coleman --> the best defensive line since being put together (min 200 mins together, per Button)
Toffoli is here to help build a 3rd scoring line.
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02-15-2022, 08:56 AM
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#793
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by looooob
I was at the Flames game that night, my dad picked me up at the LRT station after the game
"Flames got Mullen" he says
for who? I ask
Bourgeois, Cavallini and Beers he responds
"yeah ok but what else did we give up?"
"Nothing. in fact we got a few dman thrown in"
Diabolical laughter
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I heard the deal in the car on the way out of the Saddledome parking lot.
Can't believe how many stories you and I line up over our lives. Pretty crazy man.
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02-15-2022, 08:56 AM
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#794
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
Wish Sutter would swap 23 and 29. Dube is the better puck distrubutor and the better two way player, not that he's amazing at either just the better of the two IMO.
Regardless the three are talented players and on a third line they should be able to produce. Toffoli should be PP time to offset being on a traditional third line.
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No he is not. It is amazing that whoever plays with him automatically sees a drop in production and ice time. Once he figures out what to do then he can play more.
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02-15-2022, 09:01 AM
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#795
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
Wish Sutter would swap 23 and 29. Dube is the better puck distrubutor and the better two way player, not that he's amazing at either just the better of the two IMO...
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Yeah, this is completely false. Monahan's puck distribution skills are actually quite good, but too often this season his linemates have failed to convert.
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02-15-2022, 09:03 AM
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#796
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Yeah, this is completely false. Monahan's puck distribution skills are actually quite good, but too often this season his linemates have failed to convert.
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Dude before you explained it better.
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02-15-2022, 09:07 AM
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#797
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Not Beltline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk --> the best overall line in all of hockey
Mangiapane - Backlund - Coleman --> the best defensive line since being put together (min 200 mins together, per Button)
Toffoli is here to help build a 3rd scoring line.
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By their metrics, Moneypuck has them as the 6th best overall line too. The top line makes an appearance at 7th.
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02-15-2022, 09:19 AM
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#798
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeltlineFan
By their metrics, Moneypuck has them as the 6th best overall line too. The top line makes an appearance at 7th.
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And Two of bostons in the top 7 are essentially the same with Marchand and Bergeron, so pretty much number 5 and 6. That’s pretty special.
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02-15-2022, 09:20 AM
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#799
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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You'd think the oilers would have a top line but it's Drai - McAvi - .......Nurse?
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02-15-2022, 09:21 AM
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#800
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Coleman has 12 points in his last 15 GP. Surely his current production shows just how good he is, and now the Flames can ice arguably two second lines.
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Yeah the 3rd line being talked about as if it is some sort of slight is off base. Forget top 6, you need a top 9 if you want to make noise.
Florida currently has Reinhart and Lundell on theirs. Carolina has Niederrieter there currently, but Kotkaniemi, Svechnikov, and Necas have all spent time there this year. Eriksson Ek is centreing the third line in Minnesota and has 15 goals.
This Toffoli addition gives us lots of looks.
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