Many came blank. Pfizer is fighting in court from releasing there data from the vaccine trials. The truth is you dont know what you took and how it will effect you in the future. Dont hate me for not being willing to take that risk.
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Just so we're 100% clear. I don't hate you, nor hate on you for not taking the vaccine.
All *I* am asking for is to cite sources on statements such as:
(1) Many came blank;
(2) Pfizer is fighting in court from releasing data on vaccine trials.
I'll do my best to call a spade a spade and try to admit my own bias. You are correct, even reading the ingredients, I don't have a sweet clue what they are or how they work. I also don't understand the ingredients in Motrin, or how Amoxicillin works. Heck, I don't even know all the ingredients in the beer I'm currently drinking.
But I do put my faith in the fact that mRNA vaccines break down shortly after introduced to the body, surviving long enough to help the body develop the ability to fight a virus:
If that's good enough for me, cool. If it's not for you, cool.
What I, and I think others, ask is that those that choose not to get vaccinated don't actively forward misinformation and falsehoods. Now, this could get done innocently enough, so really we all need to have the self awareness to not post sketchy sources.
Even above I checked the locations of the organizations, and didn't post other articles to not get lost in articles that breifly touch the subject but weren't really on point. Something we all should be doing really.
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I find it heartwarming, and simultaneously depressing, that people continue to try and convince the Chonger's of the world, despite mountains of data and easily accessibly information. It speaks to our belief that truth is self-evident given the right information, but it also speaks to our stupidity in not knowing when a fight is over before it's begun.
Let it go. Let this thread die. It should have never existed in the first place.
And im the reverse and there in lies the devide. Is this not my belief and choice to make this decision for myself as a free citizen of Canada without losing my job?
And im the reverse and there in lies the devide. Is this not my belief and choice to make this decision for myself as a free citizen of Canada without losing my job?
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Your choice is yours, but it isn't borne of rationality. Full Stop. I don't have the time to debate people like you after 2 years. It's up to you to see where you have a gap in knowledge and understanding. There are plenty of resources in our current "age of information" to catch you up. The burden is on you, not all of us.
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Many came blank. Pfizer is fighting in court from releasing there data from the vaccine trials. The truth is you dont know what you took and how it will effect you in the future. Dont hate me for not being willing to take that risk.
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The #### you’re reading is affecting you more in the present than any vaccine could possibly affect you in the future.
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Is this not my belief and choice to make this decision for myself as a free citizen of Canada without losing my job?
Well, let's see:
As a democracy, we elected parties that saw we want vaccine mandates.
And thus far the courts have been pretty much one sided in supporting the mandates.
So, yes, you are free to make whatever choice you want. But also suffer the consequences of that choice.
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Many came blank. Pfizer is fighting in court from releasing there data from the vaccine trials. The truth is you dont know what you took and how it will effect you in the future. Dont hate me for not being willing to take that risk.
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Chonger everyone I know, hundreds of my friends collegues and co workers have all taken one or a mix of the vaccines, all of them are fine, all of them, I have not seen or heard of any of their friends or co workers getting sick either, like all humans these days I am connected to thousands of people and they are all fine.
I am sadly aware of 40 or more people who have died from Covid and as many who have suffered long term organ damage from it (including that moron on the Oilers)
there are no chances you will suffer some unknown side effect in the future from either the vax or from Covid, you seem utterly unaware of how biology works so I will explain, any damage you receive from any drug or disease is immediate, if you catch Covid and it causes inflamation of the heart while its effects may last your whole life and reduce your lifespan by 10 or 15 years the actual damage it does is immediate, you may not know you have damaged yourself but it is still there, it is the same with drugs, the damage and side effects a drug does is immediate, sometimes it is cummalative, it does a little bit of damage but if you take it every day it builds up, Arsenic is like that, sometimes the immediate damage it does is to a fetus and we dont realise it until the child is born (Thalydamide or alcohol) but again the actual damage is immediate.
Around 4 billion people have taken these drugs, they have been studied beyond any drug we have ever had before and there is no damage beyond what we already know, the Covid Vax is possibly the safest vacine we have ever made
If you wish to entertain your self with baseless conspiricy theories the best one to go with is the 'if they could cure Covid in a few months maybe they could cure all the other #### but they are making to much money from the medication' theory, that one has a kernal of sense at least.
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And im the reverse and there in lies the devide. Is this not my belief and choice to make this decision for myself as a free citizen of Canada without losing my job?
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You've been misinformed, unfortunately. I have friends that have gone this way as well, it's a tough time.
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Your belief and choice is 100% your own. Losing your job, not being able to participate in society is a consequence of your decision and that's the way it should be in a free Canada.
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And im the reverse and there in lies the devide. Is this not my belief and choice to make this decision for myself as a free citizen of Canada without losing my job?
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I'm a foster parent and life long youth worker, there are many things I have to do to maintain employment, periodic criminal record checks, no problematic drinking or drug use, no mental health issues or history of racism.
In theory there is no reason why I shouldnt be able to be a perfectly good foster parent even if I was a drunken member of the KKK with a history of sex crimes against children, work is not a right though
And im the reverse and there in lies the devide. Is this not my belief and choice to make this decision for myself as a free citizen of Canada without losing my job?
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No, it is not. You are free to make the choice for yourself, but you are also free to experience the consequences of your choice. That is what a lot of people that I deal with like you don't seem to understand.
Every single choice has a consequence. You are making a choice, but do not want the consequence. Life, no matter where you go, doesn't work like that.
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Your choice is yours, but it isn't borne of rationality. Full Stop. I don't have the time to debate people like you after 2 years. It's up to you to see where you have a gap in knowledge and understanding. There are plenty of resources in our current "age of information" to catch you up. The burden is on you, not all of us.
How is the burden on some unvaccinated guy who is careful enough not to get covid? Not all unvaccinated people are idiots going out into public. And as far as im concerned a double or triple shotted person living there life like its normal and they are immune is being far worse for increasing the spread of covid than me.
How is the burden on some unvaccinated guy who is careful enough not to get covid? Not all unvaccinated people are idiots going out into public. And as far as im concerned a double or triple shotted person living there life like its normal and they are immune is being far worse for increasing the spread of covid than me.
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Well, you're wrong, but I wont' bore you with the data and details as to why, mostly because you either don't care or won't be able to grasp it.
And as to your responsibility to learn? Yeah, that's the price you pay for having choices. If you wish to remain free, then it is your societal duty to have the absolutely best informed decision in any choice you make. You owe it to yourself and all others you live around.
That's the cost of democracy, a well-informed electorate. Don't want to learn? Feel free to live in any of the autocracies around the world where your choices don't matter, and therefore your education on a topic is inconsequential.
I wish I didn't have to explain civics to someone who clearly understands civic duty and freedom in a democracy. You do get this, no?
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How is the burden on some unvaccinated guy who is careful enough not to get covid? Not all unvaccinated people are idiots going out into public. And as far as im concerned a double or triple shotted person living there life like its normal and they are immune is being far worse for increasing the spread of covid than me.
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basic civics, oh and you weren't careful, you were lucky
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Chonger everyone I know, hundreds of my friends collegues and co workers have all taken one or a mix of the vaccines, all of them are fine, all of them, I have not seen or heard of any of their friends or co workers getting sick either, like all humans these days I am connected to thousands of people and they are all fine.
I am sadly aware of 40 or more people who have died from Covid and as many who have suffered long term organ damage from it (including that moron on the Oilers)
there are no chances you will suffer some unknown side effect in the future from either the vax or from Covid, you seem utterly unaware of how biology works so I will explain, any damage you receive from any drug or disease is immediate, if you catch Covid and it causes inflamation of the heart while its effects may last your whole life and reduce your lifespan by 10 or 15 years the actual damage it does is immediate, you may not know you have damaged yourself but it is still there, it is the same with drugs, the damage and side effects a drug does is immediate, sometimes it is cummalative, it does a little bit of damage but if you take it every day it builds up, Arsenic is like that, sometimes the immediate damage it does is to a fetus and we dont realise it until the child is born (Thalydamide or alcohol) but again the actual damage is immediate.
Around 4 billion people have taken these drugs, they have been studied beyond any drug we have ever had before and there is no damage beyond what we already know, the Covid Vax is possibly the safest vacine we have ever made
If you wish to entertain your self with baseless conspiricy theories the best one to go with is the 'if they could cure Covid in a few months maybe they could cure all the other #### but they are making to much money from the medication' theory, that one has a kernal of sense at least.
First off i wanna thank you for taking the time to type this out and not treat me like a human pos. But im more comfortable being a hermit than i am taking shots and never ending boosters.
First off i wanna thank you for taking the time to type this out and not treat me like a human pos. But im more comfortable being a hermit than i am taking shots and never ending boosters.
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But at some point you are going to get covid. Wouldn't you rather have an easy go with it, than end up in hospital, or worse? The vaccine is simple, effective, safe and recommend by pretty much everyone worth listening to.
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This is not the 'devide'. The divide is entirely created by people like you. Not because you didn't get vaccinated, that part is fully your choice. Consequences are on you.
The divide is created because of your inability to use critical thinking to listen and broaden your scope of information. People like you conveniently dig in their heels when information agrees with what you were already thinking and automatically discard information that goes against.
To make it worse, when presented with additional information or points of view... you'll go emo teen with pithy, meaningless comments like, "We elect? Good one". What a joke.
You'll make no effort to discuss with charity, reason, and/or a remotely open mind. It's closed trap shut, but you'll pretend there's a sliver open. But we all know that's BS. It's a ruse for you to get your digs in. No solutions, no ideas, nothing. Everything out of your mouth is meaningless.
You WANT people to challenge you. Why? So you can name-call others to make yourself feel better. Not because you want to find out more.
Freedom? LOL, yeah you're so hard done by typing this out with your $1000 smartphone, living in a heated home, with all the social nets necessary to not become destitute, living in an era with the lowest violent crime on record, and nearly all the medicine available to you.
So here's the thing. You don't know what struggle is. Your life isn't hard. Not even remotely. Otherwise, you wouldn't be acting like this.
This mindset is so prevalent. You're 'woke', you're 'cancelled', you're a Nazi, you're a Libtard, Trudeau sucks, Kenney lives in his mom's basement. I'm so tired of it.
Ultimately, NO ONE KNOWS. You make decisions to the best of your ability by examining multiple, vetted sources, reading between the lines, and not throwing yourself into the deep end into a small sample size of media.
What comes out of that may result in consequences. You're not special. No one is. That's life and you'll have to deal with it. Just like everyone else.
