The Legend of Sam Bennett

[powderjunkie]

All that's left is for a Marchment-Bennett-Lomberg line to score the cup clinching goal. Too bad they don't have Stralman anymore.

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don’t know how you can blame management for Monahan given his injuries
How many top line guys has BT lost for nothing? Brodie and?
There is nothing objective about your post

Brodie. Giordano. Monahan allowed to lose all value. Bennett, history will prove imo, lost for nothing. Hamonic huge price paid dissipated to zero

Gaudreau will be the ultimate cherry on top

Story not over yet

Did you read what I wrote about Monahan and Bennett? Like.... any of it?

I thought I explained my view on management ####ing those two assets up pretty well but maybe not

Monahan was a mirage. From the minute they hitched his star to Johnny.

Cheechoo. Brown. Neal. Monahan. Same pile of parasites

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Second in the division based on points percentage, +29 goal differential.



The extent to which some will go to complain is pretty sad.

Is this your first year as a fan?

Do you think the five year outlook looks good or....

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

All that's left is for a Marchment-Bennett-Lomberg line to score the cup clinching goal. Too bad they don't have Stralman anymore.

How about they win a round first? lol

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Is this your first year as a fan?

Do you think the five year outlook looks good or....

This is what you post about during a Flames game lol

What a terrible existence as a fan.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Is this your first year as a fan?

Do you think the five year outlook looks good or....

Do you think you know anything about the five-year outlook?

(Narrator: ‘He didn't.’)

[tvp2003]

On the radio this morning, Elliotte Friedman talked about how the Panthers should go all in this year, which meant getting the best available defenceman, either with term (Chychrun) or a rental (Giordano).

Gio to the Panthers to try and get the Cup with Sam? Sign me up.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Brodie. Giordano. Monahan allowed to lose all value. Bennett, history will prove imo, lost for nothing. Hamonic huge price paid dissipated to zero

Gaudreau will be the ultimate cherry on top

Story not over yet

Did you read what I wrote about Monahan and Bennett? Like.... any of it?

I thought I explained my view on management ####ing those two assets up pretty well but maybe not

Monahan was a mirage. From the minute they hitched his star to Johnny.

Cheechoo. Brown. Neal. Monahan. Same pile of parasites

I had heard from a source within (who has given me factual information before) prior to this season starting, that Treliving has lined up 3 separate trades over the last year to ship Monahan out and that ownership vetoed it every time.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Brodie. Giordano. Monahan allowed to lose all value. Bennett, history will prove imo, lost for nothing. Hamonic huge price paid dissipated to zero

Gaudreau will be the ultimate cherry on top

Story not over yet

Did you read what I wrote about Monahan and Bennett? Like.... any of it?

I thought I explained my view on management ####ing those two assets up pretty well but maybe not

Monahan was a mirage. From the minute they hitched his star to Johnny.

Cheechoo. Brown. Neal. Monahan. Same pile of parasites

Monahan was a good prospect but he got lazy and stopped developing. Johnny was creating all the offense for him so it's game over for him now. Too old to start over

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

On the radio this morning, Elliotte Friedman talked about how the Panthers should go all in this year, which meant getting the best available defenceman, either with term (Chychrun) or a rental (Giordano).

Gio to the Panthers to try and get the Cup with Sam? Sign me up.

All fine and dandy until the Flames play the Panthers in the finals.

Be careful what you wish for.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Monahan was a good prospect but he got lazy and stopped developing. Johnny was creating all the offense for him so it's game over for him now. Too old to start over

Injuries not accounted for at all eh?
Nope he's lazy!!!!
Brutal take.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Injuries not accounted for at all eh?
Nope he's lazy!!!!
Brutal take.

Ok he lost all his skills due to injuries. Went from 1st line center to a guy that doesn't fit anywhere

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I had heard from a source within (who has given me factual information before) prior to this season starting, that Treliving has lined up 3 separate trades over the last year to ship Monahan out and that ownership vetoed it every time.

This is very interesting

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Ok he lost all his skills due to injuries. Went from 1st line center to a guy that doesn't fit anywhere

Also not 100% valid.

He is greatly improved defensively this season.

And when he's been given time with Coleman, Mangiapane, or Dube he's looked fine in an middle 6 role.

He's just doesn't play well with Lewis or Richardson, which was crazy to start with because his skill set does not fit the 4th line.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Ok he lost all his skills due to injuries. Went from 1st line center to a guy that doesn't fit anywhere

Try not arguing on the extremes.
No one said he lost all his skills due to injuries but it's also silly to ignore them as contributing factors including when you look at what those injuries are.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I had heard from a source within (who has given me factual information before) prior to this season starting, that Treliving has lined up 3 separate trades over the last year to ship Monahan out and that ownership vetoed it every time.

So all the sudden, they stop him from making trades and he just quietly says nothing and continue to let them ruin his reputation?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

So all the sudden, they stop him from making trades and he just quietly says nothing and continue to let them ruin his reputation?

What's he going to do? Come out in the media and say he tried to trade a player but his bosses wouldn't let him?

His reputation with the team's owners and around the league is what matters the most, and he's protecting that by saying nothing of what is going on behind the scenes.

I'm not sure he cares much that a group of fans on Calgarypuck or Twitter seem to want him fired and think he's done a bad job, while knowing none of the context that ownership or the rest of the league would have.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Try not arguing on the extremes.
No one said he lost all his skills due to injuries but it's also silly to ignore them as contributing factors including when you look at what those injuries are.

Yeah injuries were part of it but years of playing with Johnny had a lot to do with it. His role was to find an opening for a shot. Other areas of being a center was never developed properly. It's natural since Johnny is the creator on the line.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

What's he going to do? Come out in the media and say he tried to trade a player but his bosses wouldn't let him?

His reputation with the team's owners and around the league is what matters the most, and he's protecting that by saying nothing of what is going on behind the scenes.

I'm not sure he cares much that a group of fans on Calgarypuck or Twitter seem to want him fired and think he's done a bad job, while knowing none of the context that ownership or the rest of the league would have.

I'd find another job of my boss is preventing me from processing. Especially, if I am wealthy.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I'd find another job of my boss is preventing me from processing. Especially, if I am wealthy.

There are only 32 NHL GM jobs in the world.

Pretty much all of them would require some level of involvement from their boss and the ownership group.

Most NHL owners will want to sign off when you are trading a player who has been a big part of the franchise for almost a decade now.

But yeah he should just quit and leave the organization because Flamesfan05 is unhappy that Sean Monahan hasn't been traded yet, and his bosses wouldn't let him.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I had heard from a source within (who has given me factual information before) prior to this season starting, that Treliving has lined up 3 separate trades over the last year to ship Monahan out and that ownership vetoed it every time.

The only veto we have heard reported was the owners vetoed a buyout of Neal (thankfully).

IF the owners vetoed three trades that Treliving brought forward, it makes you wonder:

Why would they keep him around if he keeps proposing bad deals?

Or why would he want to stay here if has no latitude?

My guess is that if the owners did veto deals he brought forward, it's because they created future salary obligations for the club. But it just doesn't seem plausible. Treliving would be gone by now if true, one way or the other.