2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Poe969]

I'm sure if you looked, someone here said the same thing about Bennett. Maybe he just needs to look for the toolbox somewhere else.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I'm sure if you looked, someone here said the same thing about Bennett. Maybe he just needs to look for the toolbox somewhere else.

True, but Tippett plays on the Panthers. If you are an offensive player and can't score on that roster, you are probably doing something wrong.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

True, but Tippett plays on the Panthers. If you are an offensive player and can't score on that roster, you are probably doing something wrong.

He’s stuck behind a bunch of wingers, not unlike Bennett being stuck behind centres here (not asking for a debate on that). He’d get a better shot here.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He’s stuck behind a bunch of wingers, not unlike Bennett being stuck behind centres here (not asking for a debate on that). He’d get a better shot here.

Why?

He isn’t playing ahead of Tkachuk, Mangiapane/Coleman.

So he’d be on our 3rd line.

Also, Florida is using Tippett to improve their current roster as they push for the Cup - not a futures deal. I see no roads ahead where Calgary and Florida are trade partners in-season.

[sureLoss]

Flames only get Tippett if it is a 3 way deal.

Either the Panthers trade Tippett to the Flames for an asset another team finds more valuable than Tippett or the acquiring team flips Tippett to the Flames.

For example (values might not be there), Tippett part of the package for Chychrun then Coyotes flip him to the Flames for a 1st.

Or The Panthers trade Tippett to Calgary for a 2nd, and use that 2nd in a package for another player because the other team prefers a 2nd over Tippett.

[Sandman]

Tippett was really looking good last year, but he’s been buried a bit this year. He would be trending upwards if he was playing elsewhere. He’s young and he’s big-I would like it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Why?

He isn’t playing ahead of Tkachuk, Mangiapane/Coleman.

So he’d be on our 3rd line.

Also, Florida is using Tippett to improve their current roster as they push for the Cup - not a futures deal. I see no roads ahead where Calgary and Florida are trade partners in-season.

Sutter mixes his lines more than that - you know this. He’s playing a line with Mangiapane and either Backlund or Monahan. And as bad as you may think those guys are, they’re better than who he’s played with this year. He’s a reclamation, but a decent one.

[powderjunkie]

They want to include Tippett in a Chychrun deal instead of someone like Lundell.

Not sure if Tippett+Juolevi+2023 1st gets it done? +Luostarinen?

It's also hard to see where FLA can shed much cap...Vatrano is probably the most expendable and would slightly offset the futures they'll spend.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I still think the deal is Tippet, Denisenko, and a 1st

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I'm sure if you looked, someone here said the same thing about Bennett. Maybe he just needs to look for the toolbox somewhere else.

He was given a ton of chance with Huberdeau last year and didn't make anything out of it. That's why I brought him up in the Bennett thread when one poster was saying a fire hydrant can look good with Huberdeau. Tippett did nothing.



Now he may of course figure it out but I don't see anything pointing to that direction. He has a cannon of a shot but shoots it wide or to the chest. No vision, he'll shoot as soon as he can unless there is an obvious play infront of him. I'm pretty sure the Panthers would love to deal him while he's still young and has some value.

[Roof-Daddy]

The way this team plays most nights, they could be a legit threat with another proven scorer or two. Maybe it can come from within, or maybe they need to add.

Calle Jarnkrok had a terrible start to the season, but he's now put up 13 points in his last 17 games. Right hand shot, plays all three forward positions, strong two way player that can skate, plays the right way. He's got Sutter type player written all over him. He's got a low cap hit too, $2,000,000 AAV will take up near league minimum at the deadline.

You add him and Toffoli and I think you make the forward group very deep and dangerous.

[1qqaaz]

I think it makes more sense for the Flames to acquire a player with some term left. The team isn't good enough to deserve a high end rental. And lower quality rentals should be avoided altogether.

If the Flames are acquiring someone with term, they have to send back some inefficient cap the other way. That would cost a premium.

The least cap efficient players on the Flames who have 1+ years of term remaining are Backlund, Lucic, Coleman, and Monahan.

Coleman has a NTC and can't be traded. Monahan is still fairly good on the PP and can help the team.

So if the Flames are making a major hockey trade and taking on cap space, either Lucic or Backlund will go the other way. Maybe Monahan if the player is very good.

If Backlund or Monahan are being traded, the Flames pretty much have to get a center back. Backlund and Monahan are solid players and the player coming back would have to be pretty good.

[Sandman]

The only thing that's really missing on this roster is more scoring. The puck is always going the right way, and is on our players' sticks most of the time. They might want a veteran puck-moving D too.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Tippett isn't very good, all the tools no toolbox type.

Sounds familiar.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Sounds familiar.

I'm not sure if you're referring to Bennett and his time Calgary but unlike Bennett Tippett has been given a fair shot at the top six and he hasn't made anything out of it. Some flashes sure but I've never seen anything more than bottom six guy. For being supposedly a goalscorer he is one of the worst finishers on the team.


I wouldn't mind the Flames targeting him if he comes cheap (doubtful since still young) but he wouldn't move the needle at all IMO.

[Strange Brew]

If Flames acquire a player with term, they could deal with the salary in the off season. That seems to be the way other teams do it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I'm not sure if you're referring to Bennett and his time Calgary but unlike Bennett Tippett has been given a fair shot at the top six and he hasn't made anything out of it. Some flashes sure but I've never seen anything more than bottom six guy. For being supposedly a goalscorer he is one of the worst finishers on the team.


I wouldn't mind the Flames targeting him if he comes cheap (doubtful since still young) but he wouldn't move the needle at all IMO.

Bennett was given chances in Calgary but could never capitalize on them. I think it's fair probably to say that the coaches didn't have a lot of patience with him, but he also didn't play up to his potential. He was in a downward spiral where his confidence and attitude were likely not letting him progress. It sucks that it got to that point and that is a failure on this organization, but some of that is on Bennett too.

Tippett is similar in the way that he was given chances and couldn't make good on them, and Florida has better options than to be patient. It's also worth mentioning that Tippett is younger than Valimaki, Dube, Gawdin, and Phillips. All players that most fans still seem to believe have NHL potential. He is also younger than Kylington who just put it together this season.

[genetic_phreek]

I'd still rather Kravtsov over Tippett.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The way this team plays most nights, they could be a legit threat with another proven scorer or two. Maybe it can come from within, or maybe they need to add.

Calle Jarnkrok had a terrible start to the season, but he's now put up 13 points in his last 17 games. Right hand shot, plays all three forward positions, strong two way player that can skate, plays the right way. He's got Sutter type player written all over him. He's got a low cap hit too, $2,000,000 AAV will take up near league minimum at the deadline.

You add him and Toffoli and I think you make the forward group very deep and dangerous.

Yes please.

[sureLoss]

Habs are exploring trading Petry to an American team.

https://www.lapresse.ca/sports/hocke...medium=twitter

Basically Petry's wife and kids have moved back to the US because they found Quebec's COVID protocols are too restrictive for them and the Habs are trying to accommodate a move to make it easier for the family if it makes sense for the Habs.