2022 NFL Playoff Thread

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

So we're all in agreement that the Cowboys are the Leafs of the NFL at this point, and vice versa, right?

I was thinking more like the Oilers. But Leafs works too.

The Leafs make the playoffs more consistently then Cowboys though.

[dino7c]

yeah I was thinking Oilers...champs a million years ago, living in the past, over rated.

[Sylvanfan]

Early lines up for next week.

Bengals +3 at Tennessee O/U 47.0
San Francisco +5.5 at Green Bay O/U 47.5
Buffalo +2.5 at Kansas City O/U 54.0

I would expect Tampa to be a 1.5 point favorite against the Rams and likely 4.5 or 5.0 against Arizona. Looks like the Titans line will move in the Bengals favor as you can get 2.05 on the Bengals +3, so if you like the Titans...hold off till that line moves to 2.5.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

yeah I was thinking Oilers...champs a million years ago, living in the past, over rated.

Except that the Cowboys have made the playoffs somewhat regularly this Century. Just saw that they've had the most playoff appearances without making a Conference title game now with 11.

Hard to find a NHL comparable as you need a hyped team who always fall short in the playoffs. In Calgary, people get tricked into thinking the Leafs and Oilers are the only two hyped teams in the league. I'd say the Cowboys are maybe more like the Colorado Avalanche.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The Cowboys are the Cowboys. Just as the Leafs are the Leafs, the Oilers are the Oilers, the Knicks are the Knicks etc.... Each is it's own unique entity of suck. The only thing that kinda ties them together is annoying, loud fan bases who haven't won anything remotely recent, yet talk more than most other teams fan bases who have won something recently. Also, I guess the expectation that even when the circumstances should lead you to believe they'll win, you know in your mind they will find a way to lose, also ties them together. Yesterday was a perfect example, the Cowboys clearly were the better team in the regular season, but you just never trust them to win a big game. You also never trust McCarthy ever, under any circumstances. If he gets fired from this yesterday then it's not such a bad loss for the Cowboys. If he comes back then it's a catastrophe.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

The comparison is all the offensive firepower and all the "this is our year" stuff from their fans, who regard their team as the center of the universe as far as the sport is concerned and talk about how the league is really all about catering to their needs because they're the big ticket. Yet no matter how talented they appear to be on paper, they routinely find new, more hilarious ways to embarrass themselves in the postseason.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The Cowboys are the Cowboys. Just as the Leafs are the Leafs, the Oilers are the Oilers, the Knicks are the Knicks etc.... Each is it's own unique entity of suck. The only thing that kinda ties them together is annoying, loud fan bases who haven't won anything remotely recent, yet talk more than most other teams fan bases who have won something recently. Also, I guess the expectation that even when the circumstances should lead you to believe they'll win, you know in your mind they will find a way to lose, also ties them together. Yesterday was a perfect example, the Cowboys clearly were the better team in the regular season, but you just never trust them to win a big game. You also never trust McCarthy ever, under any circumstances. If he gets fired from this yesterday then it's not such a bad loss for the Cowboys. If he comes back then it's a catastrophe.

In general NFC East is annoying for fans of teams in other conferences. The amount of media attention and primetime games that the Cowboys, Giants, and to a lesser extent, the Eagles receive makes it easy for fans of other teams to hate those organizations. With some great playoff games upcoming next weekend a large portion of NFL news this week will be dedicated to the Cowboys, how their season ended, and what's going to happen to their coaching staff. Basically mirroring Leafs coverage in Canada. It's extremely annoying and the only thing redeeming about it is watching them fail every year.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah he needed to cut it just a little shorter, pick up the ball and hand it to the official.

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But if you're going to do that you better know the rules. He gave the ball to his center instead of the umpire. Just a high risk, minimal upside play.

Dak and the centre both need to know the rules in this situation. Find the Umpire and give him the ball ASAP. Bad play call or decision making on the play with that little time left, but if you are going to do it you need to know the ball needs to go to the Umpire.

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This is likely going to be an unpopular opinion but I think that in the last two minutes the refs should be stopping the clock to spot the ball between plays. I don't mean full stoppages to let the team huddle up but at least take enough time to spot the ball appropriately and to move the chains.

College has it right with the stoppage to move the chains and spot the ball. NFL should follow suit.

[GirlySports]

Still you are depending on an umpire to sprint 25 yards. Not a good play call.

[Senator Clay Davis]

There was just so much unnecessary risk for 15 yards. I'm sure someone will run the numbers, but it can't have been appreciably better to have one shot from the 25 then to have two from the 40 when factoring in the risk of what eventually happened, no play. Just reeks of McCarthy attempting to outsmart everyone.

[devo22]

well that went as expected. Defense was great early on, but if the offense can't do ####, the floodgates will eventually open. Sucks for guys like Watt and Heyward, they really deserve better. But with a washed up QB and a terrible OL, this was always a realistic outcome ... and when you add Najee being banged up (and the backups being crap) and Johnson dropping balls like it's 2020 again, you'd really need Mahomes to be Space Jamed to have a shot. Congrats Chiefs!

not mad at all tbh, didn't expect them to make the playoffs in the first place and, in all honesty, they didn't deserve to. Going to be a couple of ugly years now, they have to rebuild in a lot of areas and with little draft capital and no trade chips, it'll take a minute.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

College has it right with the stoppage to move the chains and spot the ball. NFL should follow suit.

Not a fan of college or CFL when it comes to clock stoppages at the end of halves. You play the entire game a certain way and all of a sudden the time clock rules totally change favoring the offense. In the CFL you can play balls out defensively for a half only to see the clock rules change in the last 3 minutes that totally favor the offense being able to march all the way down the field in less than a minute. It would be like the NHL stopping the clock when the puck is in the neutral zone in the last two minutes of a game to help out teams that are behind. It just doesn't make sense to me.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not a fan of college or CFL when it comes to clock stoppages at the end of halves. You play the entire game a certain way and all of a sudden the time clock rules totally change favoring the offense. In the CFL you can play balls out defensively for a half only to see the clock rules change in the last 3 minutes that totally favor the offense being able to march all the way down the field in less than a minute. It would be like the NHL stopping the clock when the puck is in the neutral zone in the last two minutes of a game to help out teams that are behind. It just doesn't make sense to me.

At the very least the officials need time to properly mark the line of scrimmage and the chain gang needs to get into place because the game is dependent on those markings. Because of that I think plays needs to be blown dead in these situations where play is moving down the field rapidly. If you watch the last play and the sideline situation the down marker is not in position when the ball is placed and snapped. That shouldn't be the case in my opinion albeit that it doesn't really matter on the very final play necessarily.

[Sylvanfan]

I tend to agree with Estrada. The game moves slow enough as is in the last two minutes. Teams are well aware of this, and that's why running with 14 seconds and no time outs is risky. For years, I have heard at least 16 seconds to run a play in bounds, get set and spike it to get the field goal unit on.

[CaptainCrunch]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1482884132426428423

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

There was just so much unnecessary risk for 15 yards. I'm sure someone will run the numbers, but it can't have been appreciably better to have one shot from the 25 then to have two from the 40 when factoring in the risk of what eventually happened, no play. Just reeks of McCarthy attempting to outsmart everyone.

Even if one shot from the 25 is better, the play is still to the sideline. Romo was right. Do the Hail Mary on the first play while the defense is guarding the sideline.

[Senator Clay Davis]

There's no need to change the clock rules because the Cowboys chose to take an unnecessary risk. They are victims of their own stupidity, and it's even worse when you remember they already got flagged for a delay of game earlier in the game because they tried to bait the 49ers into wasting a timeout and the umpire had to touch the ball before the snap.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Add on the fact that there was no reason to do that when the 9ers appeared entirely uninterested in stopping them from getting short gains and getting out of bounds, they’d done it for 3 straight plays.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Add on the fact that there was no reason to do that when the 9ers appeared entirely uninterested in stopping them from getting short gains and getting out of bounds, they’d done it for 3 straight plays.

They were defending the sideline for that play with 14 seconds left. Romo pointed it out pre-snap and said that they should take a shot at the endzone, it would surprise the defense.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1483115251717525511

[Senator Clay Davis]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1482754703310077959