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Flickered Flame · 03-20-2007, 08:30 AM

Thought this might generate some discussion. It looks like there were 24 trades at the deadline involving 42 players and 22 draft picks getting moved around. So the questions now become:

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?
2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?
3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?
4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?
5. Best/Worst trade of the day
6. Add anything you can think of.

Discuss

nyrcrisfer · 03-20-2007, 09:07 AM

Well there wasn't a whole lot of trading on deadline day. A lot of small deals but nothing too major. I'll take a shot anyway.

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?
Probably Atlanta's trearade lier in the week which landed them Ohlund. They didn't have a legit #1 defenseman but they do now. They also got York who they traded for Lang which will have a big impact as well.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?
I think overall the Howe didn't do enough. Other than Chicago everyone basically stood pat. In a conference where all 8 playoff teams will have a shot to make a run I thought they would all improve their team on deadline day.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?
Personally I didn't plan on doing much anyway so I'm not dissapointed. I was hoping to get more for Ohlund but what can you do. I need a top 6 forward and top 4 defenseman, but wasn't going to get either of them now. I'll wait until the summer to improve.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?
Atlanta improved the most over the last week. They are going to be a tough out in the playoffs. Also Chicago improved their chances in the Howe. Those 2 teams are the "winners" of deadline day/week.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day
Best- I like Detroit's trade with Montral. Nedved and Majesky for Recchi and Jonsson. Recchi is having a good NHL season so he's a good player to have for next year.

Also Chicago got a lot for Ruutu. Bonk/Salvador will help this year and they got a 1st round pick as well. Liked that trade for Chicago.

Flickered Flame · 03-20-2007, 09:13 AM

I also agree that there were the smaller type deals yesterday.

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?
I think there were 2 trades that stand out for me, Bonk and Salvador to the Hawks, and Riberio to the Hawks.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?
Well I don't know what happened to the Oilers but with Samsonov gone for the year, I thought for sure they would add a forward.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?
Zednik for Nilson is not what I had planned but Zed. makes too much for my liking so I freed up some cap. I made most of my moves earlier in the season.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?
Chicago hands down imo.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day
Best trade Mike Egener for Marty Sertich.

Sylvanfan · 03-20-2007, 09:48 AM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?

Probably Atlanta grabbing Ohlund. Top defenceman who can play 25-30 minutes a night for them in the playoffs. Thats probably the One deal that will do the most.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

Oilers, are going into the playoffs with Rocky Thompson in their top 12. I don't know how many more good chances they'll have so I'm surprised they didn't at least look to move a 2nd or their first round pick to bring in a veteran guy.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

I'd have to say I am. I made a very aggressive pitch to try and get back into the playoff picture and when it became apparent it wasn't going to work out I had to move or end up with a team that would be worse than the Sharks. With 9 pending UFA's and only 2 of them having a current price I was comfortable and most of them being better SIM players as opposed to NHL types with I had to get creative. But I managed to move them all out, trim my payroll by 31 million dollars and keep enough bodies in my organization to at least be able to truck out a team for next year. If I'd stood pat....I'd have like 6 forwards and 3 defenceman on my CPHL team on July 1st.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

Chicago took a big step forward yesterday.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

I'm going to say teams who didn't make any moves, who should have.

6. Add anything you can think of.

I think I saw about 23 different GM's online at different times of the day. I thought some teams might try to add a veteran here or there for a pick. I guess folks don't appreciate depth or something. Last time we had a playoff run with Sim injuries I was down to my 9th defenceman and 15th forward and backup goalie for game 7 of the Cup because of injuries I'd suffered along the way. And I had a balanced lineup in which I didn't rely on 2-3 guys to do everything for me so I kept all my players under 25 minutes a game.

No block buster trade as everything for the most part was pretty minor. Biggest deadline day deal is probably the one I made with the Hawks. Overall the higher amount of Cheese money allowed a few teams to build really strong teams.

Controversial statement of the year time:
Time to fold the Sharks....No takers for any of their players and to be 100% honest that team is going to be a bottom feeder again next year. The commisioners running the team at least did improve the team, but that organization needs an extremely schrewd manager who can really actively manage that team and committ 100% of their CPHL time to that team. Even if they get that at best they're looking at improvement in the 2008-2009 season.

flambers · 03-20-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

5. Best/Worst trade of the day
Best trade Mike Egener for Marty Sertich.

Little surprised on this one...........

, Egener is a player who did well with the Hitman but he has struggled with the next level. Played in ECHL last season.

As for Sertich, just graduated from NCAA is playing in AHL has 33 pts in 44 games.

I don't see how this is a best or worst trade.....

Of course I was one of the GMs so maybe I am biased....

flambers · 03-20-2007, 10:17 AM

As for the deadline, It was an interesting year not allot of teams were moving anything other than depth players or picks. Some teams were sellers (only a few) but I thought more big moves were going to be made which did not materialize....

HelloHockeyFans · 03-20-2007, 10:22 AM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?

I like the Ohlund deal, but I think Becky's pieces are going to have the biggest impact. Couple that with the people around her too afraid to make the move to put them over the top, I like her chances this year from the Howe... Hawks or the Wild.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

Oilers are the obvious answer here with them unable to replace Samsonov for the playoffs... Didn't think Anaheim made enough effort either to get themselves in a better position next season... perhaps there was no fit.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

For once, I'm actually happy with the deals I made at the deadline. Normally, I regret deals pretty much within the first few minutes of making them, but I thought I did alright this time.

My reasoning the entire time throughout my process of acquiring youth and CPHL-ready guys was to eventually package them up for high-rated, veteran forwards, since these are the guys proven time and time again in this league to be the ones that matter the most. Ultimately, I didn't think Wellwood or Perezhogin were going to be at a level high enough where they would be difference makers on my roster, and with Ward as a clear number 1 for me, Holmqvist was expendable... so I pulled the trigger there to get Jagr.

Mcauley is a good DF player in the SIM, but his knee problem, although not serious in my opinion, was something I didn't want to deal with. Mclauey's starting to get up there now in age (30 on July 1st), and missing most of the NHL season with an injury probably won't help his case come re-rates this offseason. He's the prototypical player that a deep playoff team would want to add for a playoff run, which is why this deal works for both the Islanders and the Canes. I was able to add CP whipping boy Chuck Kobasew and a prospect defenceman in Niklas Grossman who I really like.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

Becky's Hawks improved themselves, but that defense still has me befuddled. Contender, perhaps... but that defense... LOL.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

Lost of good additions in my opinion. Dave's deal for Stuart got him a Top 4 defenceman... he gave up a young guy who will be good, but he added a 77OV defenceman capable of Top 4 minutes to an already deep defense... I also like Syl's deal for Ruutu as I think Ruutu's injury woes are behind him and he will dominate next season in the NHL... this isn't to say that the deal wasn't good for Becky though, which I already said makes her a lot stronger for the playoffs...

Worst deals... not crazy about Sandra's deal for Ivanans for Semenov as I like Semenov a lot more... but I really like Sandra getting rid of Nilson who appears to have had his injuries catch up to him this season, for Zednik who should out-last Nilson... bad deal for Mike IMO.

Mango · 03-20-2007, 11:02 AM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?
Chicago's trade. It gives them the depth to do some real damage in the playoffs.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?
I'm surprised Edmonton didn't make any trades.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?
Content. Semenov was traded to rid of salary. At 68 OV and 2.2 million, I had no room for him, especially if he leaves for Russia again. Nilson's career has reached a screeching hault and that will impact his ratings this summer.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?
Chicago.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day
Not enough trades to make a categorization. Most are "wait and see"

6. Add anything you can think of.
Ummm...hi!

JiriHrdina · 03-20-2007, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flambers

Little surprised on this one...........

, Egener is a player who did well with the Hitman but he has struggled with the next level. Played in ECHL last season.

As for Sertich, just graduated from NCAA is playing in AHL has 33 pts in 44 games.

I don't see how this is a best or worst trade.....

Of course I was one of the GMs so maybe I am biased....

Yeah strictly a dufus for dufus trade. Sertich is a guy I signed last summer as a UFA - late bloomer NCAA guy...you never know which of those guys are going to pan out or not.

Egener is a more familiar name who has dissapointed right now particularly iin a very shallow T-bay organization prospect wise.

So yeah striclty a trade for the sake of making a trade.

flambers · 03-20-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah strictly a dufus for dufus trade. Sertich is a guy I signed last summer as a UFA - late bloomer NCAA guy...you never know which of those guys are going to pan out or not.

Egener is a more familiar name who has dissapointed right now particularly iin a very shallow T-bay organization prospect wise.

So yeah striclty a trade for the sake of making a trade.

Yep, I agree....Rangers only went for a AHLer forward as we needed to make sure there was a 13th forward on the farm in case of injuries......which would not surprise me if that happened.

Flickered Flame · 03-20-2007, 11:29 AM

Yeah I was just being a dick when I put the Egener trade in there. As for the Zednik for Nilson trade. I don't really like it either, but imo Zednik is overrated and overpaid. And as of right now Nilson is still alot better than both Shawn Thornton, Carsen Germyn and well actually half or 2/3 of my forwards.

JiriHrdina · 03-20-2007, 11:33 AM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?

Chicago's series of deals turns them into a contendor in the West. They are as strong as any of the other top teams now.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

Edmonton. Losing Samsonov should have forced Steve's hand to do something. Particularly with bandaid solutions like Nedved and Recchi out there to be had. No reason not to get one of those guys.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

Not really. A player became available that pretty much fit the mold of who I wanted - but I didn't have the right type of asset to get that player. Other than that I don't think I was even really close to making a deal.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

Chicago

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

Didn't see any flat out steals. I'll go back to the Ohlund deal and say Atlanta did the best with that one.

6. Add anything you can think of.

Not enough activity this year. Not the fault of our GMs. But we need to look at some things to stimulate more activity.

Knut · 03-20-2007, 11:36 AM

Semenov had an albatross of a contract and is nothing special... i thought that deal was ok.

I liked Becky's moves alot.

Worst deals are the ones not made by people in the Howe... teams like EDM, LA and the AVS should have been stocking up.

flambers · 03-20-2007, 11:43 AM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?

Chicago's Series of deal look good...... I really like to see a GM make lots of moves right away.... Good job Becky.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

I would say Edmonton as well, losing Samsonov to an injury is a big time lose for the Oilers.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

Never Happy, I tried to stir up action but I found mostly all that was available was depth players. At this time the Rangers have lots of players maybe to many.....

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

Chicago are going to be tough in the Howe, In the Gretzky Division the teams are so close I would not even want to guess.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

Not sure, most of them are fairly close deals.

6. Add anything you can think of

I was dissappointed in the deadline, not the GMs fault but as Jiri mentioned need to find a way to stir up more action in the league

Angelino · 03-20-2007, 11:57 AM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?

Chicago. They did well to insure themselves against injury. Good deal picking up another viable dman in Morris.

Atlanta. I also like the pickup of Ohlund who is an impact player in a position which is tough to find.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

Edmonton. It seems like the Oilers should have at least picked up a depth forward to fill in for Samsonov.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

Somewhat. Didn't really feel a need to disrupt chemistry or send off highly regarded prospects for fillers. Craig, Perrin and Chouinard are my depth forwards already at this time.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

No. No team drastically improved there chances in my opinion. Chicago will be tougher however with their additions and should reap rewards of some of their moves in the playoffs.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

Most deals seemed to be pretty even. No rip jobs.

6. Add anything you can think of

Nope. Most GMs have an idea and philosophy on where they want their team to be and what direction they are heading. I can't fault any GMs for a lack of movement, it's their team...

Goffie · 03-20-2007, 12:29 PM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?
For sure the Pens adding Kilger was the biggest deal of the deadline.

In all seriousness I think that Becky did the most to improve her team, added solid veteran players to surround the likes of Jokinen, Richards and Hossa makes her team a lot better then it was heading into the deadline.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

Oilers are the definite choice here. I was shocked to see them not even pick up a few depth guys to help out their team. There were lots of temporary solutions offered to me that seemed to be available, and that team could have vastly benefited from picking up a few.
3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

Well I made my moves heading into the deadline so I would not get involved in any bidding wars, which surprisingly did not happen this season. My lone trade of picking up Chad Kilger was a good one in my eyes as well as the trade to acquisition of Kapanen, that gave me a top 12 forwards of 73ov+, with 3 more depth guys rated 70+, and a top 6 dmen rated 75ov+ with another two depth dmen onboard.
4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

Well with Becky's moves I think she can make some noise in the Howe.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

None really stood out as overly bad, the best deal for both sides involved was the Bonk package for Ruutu, I think that deal benefits both teams quite well.

6. Add anything you can think of.

Super slow deadline, not 1 real blockbuster went down.

Sample00 · 03-20-2007, 12:47 PM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?
Becky's trade with Sylvanfan. I think for now, Becky won that one. Long term, I think Chad wins hands down.
2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process? Oilers, can understand why he didnt make any moves, but its the Oilers so, good on ya!

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?
I liked my move that I made with the Hawks, I acquire yet more good young CPHL ready talent.
4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?
I think Becky made a move for this year! Long term, well there's always more trades to be made next year.
5. Best/Worst trade of the day
cant really think of one.
6. Add anything you can think of.
Nanook was relatively quiet yesterday too.

OILFAN #81 · 03-20-2007, 02:12 PM

Firstly, thanks for the mentioning of my deals. It's appreciated. I think I made like 8 deals over the past 12 days or so and about 12 deals in the past 20 CPHL games (some big ones and some small ones in the last 20 games bringing in St.Louis, Lang, Doan, Ohlund, Mason, Matvichuk, Sydor, Walz, and Kostopoulous). I was very busy the week before the trade deadline(made 7 trades in the 10-12 days prior to the deadline and that's where I made the majority of my moves). On actual deadline day I made the one deal with Toronto. I did inquire about 2 or 3 other players with 3 gm's or so just to see what the price was, but it didn't make sense to me on a return or we couldn't reach an agreement. Overall I was very happy with my deals I made this week.

Anyways, on to the questions.

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?

-I really like the Ohlund one I made with Toronto. I needed that top dman.

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

- I have to go with Edmonton. I thought a deal would be made after losing the CPHL's top point getter for the year.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

- Im very happy. I was very active this week and I brought in some big pieces (see above) and I didn't have to trade away any of the core on my team. I feel I have good depth on my team now at all positions.

- Edit: There was another piece that I was after for awhile this week but the price was way too high in 1 situation.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

- I think based on just yesterday, Chicago made some good moves.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

- Just on yesterday alone, I have to say that the Hawks/Flames trade really was a good one for Chicago.

6. Add anything you can think of.

-Half a circle, full circle, half a circle A, half a circle, full circle, right angle, A.

Prototype · 03-20-2007, 02:44 PM

1. Trade that will have the biggest impact?

I'd say being the biggest seller of the bunch yesterday, my trades could easily tank my team, but I did them to open up UFA space for next season, while picking up some solid building blocks. Not an immediate improvement, but immediate impact.

If not me... I guess Becky did OK...

2. What teams didn't do enough to help themselves going into the playoffs or to start the rebuilding process?

I think anyone who isn't in the top 8 in their conference and didn't trade to either better themselves, or get pieces for the future missed out. Kudoes to Syl for kind going the same route as me. It'll be fun trying to out bid him for UFAs this summer.

3. Are you happy with what you did and didn't do and why?

Ask me again at the begining of next season. If I can turn the space I made into some free agent signings, I'll be happy. If my roster looks very close to what it does now, I wont be happy... although other than Morris and Rucchin, the players I traded were mostly UFA at the end of the season.

4. Is there a team that has now become a contender after making trades yesterday?

Becky always has an ace up her sleve when it comes to sim hockey for some reason. Dave continued to be a contender with his moves, and Neil's team looks sharp too.

5. Best/Worst trade of the day

Ask me again at the begining of the season. Now, the Recchi deal was by far the worst. In a few months if I can't get some signatures on the dotted line, moving my non-UFAs could be the worst, but it could turn out to be the best as well.

6. Add anything you can think of.

Thanks to everyone again for the awesome feedback on the BLOG. I look forward to it being a regular feature with myself and the CPHL.

notoepik · 03-20-2007, 03:26 PM

Thanks to everyone for the pat on the back for my trades. It was pretty fun to get back into trade mode! I only hope they prove to be improvments and not chemistry ruining brain cramps.

I had hoped to improve the goaltending, but still goalies were hard to come by. I could have had one, but the deal felt wrong so no trigger pulled. I also wanted to add another d man besides Morris, and Dave offered Stuart. But for some reason, I just can't finalize a deal with Dave. Besdies that Mezsaros and O'Marra were the asking price. How could I trade Mesz after all he has done for the Hawks this season, it just didn't seem right. LOL, so silly.