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			The way I see it, this team is built for the playoffs, and much like Sutter's LA teams, we'll make the most noise when it counts. The Kings weren't chasing any Presidents Trophies, but boy did they kick ass in the playoffs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 12:24 AM
			
			
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				The way I see it, this team is built for the playoffs, and much like Sutter's LA teams, we'll make the most noise when it counts. The Kings weren't chasing any Presidents Trophies, but boy did they kick ass in the playoffs. 
			
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Really? I didn’t see to many Backlund Monahan’s on that team.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 12:45 AM
			
			
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				Really? I didn’t see to many Backlund Monahan’s on that team. 
			
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A two way player like Backlund? 
He would have fit those kings teams like a glove
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 01:34 AM
			
			
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				Really? I didn’t see to many Backlund Monahan’s on that team. 
			
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Jordan Nolan 
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Dwight King 
Dustin Penner
 
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			01-10-2022, 01:55 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Sandman
					 
				 
				The way I see it, this team is built for the playoffs, and much like Sutter's LA teams, we'll make the most noise when it counts. The Kings weren't chasing any Presidents Trophies, but boy did they kick ass in the playoffs. 
			
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Same team that has not won a playoff round? Sutter is good but he is not Jesus.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 01:57 AM
			
			
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				Same team that has not won a playoff round? Sutter is good but he is not Jesus. 
			
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Who on the team hasn't won a playoff round? Dube, Kylington, Mangi, Tkachuk, Vladar
 
The team as is hasn't played a playoff game together obviously but they have lots of players who have
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-10-2022, 01:59 AM
			
			
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			Just stopping by for my periodic "don't trade any valuable futures for high priced rentals" statement.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 03:04 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Sandman
					 
				 
				The way I see it, this team is built for the playoffs, and much like Sutter's LA teams, we'll make the most noise when it counts. The Kings weren't chasing any Presidents Trophies, but boy did they kick ass in the playoffs. 
			
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The Flames don't have enough scoring to do this, I don't think.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-10-2022, 04:09 AM
			
			
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				The Flames don't have enough scoring to do this, I don't think. 
			
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LA Kings were 29th and 24th in league scoring in their two cup wins..just sayin.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 04:16 AM
			
			
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			I think if you check out the numbers from the players on those Kings teams, we compare quite favorably in terms of offense. 
 
And this is not at all the same team that lost out in the playoffs. We are much bigger, tougher, and grittier-and despite what some believe, those qualities are very important in the playoffs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-10-2022, 05:43 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Sandman
					 
				 
				I think if you check out the numbers from the players on those Kings teams, we compare quite favorably in terms of offense. 
 
And this is not at all the same team that lost out in the playoffs. We are much bigger, tougher, and grittier-and despite what some believe, those qualities are very important in the playoffs. 
			
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Better goaltending and overall defensive system as well (due to coaching upgrade)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 06:11 AM
			
			
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				Better goaltending and overall defensive system as well (due to coaching upgrade) 
			
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Yup, probably the two most important differences….
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 07:23 AM
			
			
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			If Barzal doesn't want to stay long-term and Tkachuk wants to go back to the US, what about a deal around those two? 
 
Tkachuk and Barzal. Both players who took a bridge contract with huge qualifying offers.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 08:15 AM
			
			
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				If Barzal doesn't want to stay long-term and Tkachuk wants to go back to the US, what about a deal around those two? 
 
Tkachuk and Barzal. Both players who took a bridge contract with huge qualifying offers. 
			
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I'm interested in the idea, if Gaudreau resigns first. 
 
How unreasonable is it that I think the flames deserve a small +? Similar offensive production but Tkachuk is bigger, scores more goals, and is better defensively. Barzal is faster and plays centre.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 08:40 AM
			
			
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				Jordan Nolan 
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Dwight King 
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You proved my point. Tough players built for playoffs. Not rice paper players.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 09:06 AM
			
			
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				You proved my point. Tough players built for playoffs. Not rice paper players. 
			
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Colin Fraser? you sure about that?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 09:15 AM
			
			
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			Tough? Penner can’t even scarf down pancakes without hurting himself.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 10:17 AM
			
			
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				If Barzal doesn't want to stay long-term and Tkachuk wants to go back to the US, what about a deal around those two? 
 
Tkachuk and Barzal. Both players who took a bridge contract with huge qualifying offers. 
			
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1000x yes.
 
I've always thought Barzal is a guy that could break out in a huge way in a new system.  
Barzal and Mang or Barzal and Johnny would be amazing to watch.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 11:18 AM
			
			
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				A two way player like Backlund? 
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LOL.
 
In the Playoffs you need to hit, block shots and win faceoffs. 
Zero Swedes on the 2 Cups L.A. won.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2022, 11:21 AM
			
			
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				LOL. 
 
In the Playoffs you need to hit, block shots and win faceoffs. 
Zero Swedes on the 2 Cups L.A. won. 
			
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Race has nothing to do with it. Detroit had basically a team full of Swedes in 07/08. for their cup win. Not a good take. Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Franzen and Holmstrom all say hello.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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