[PGT] Canes 6 Flames 3 - Road Trip Mercifully Over

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Hard to make major moves when you have zero cap room. It means you need to dive up valuable assets to obtain the major moves, plus likely give up valuable assets to have someone take your dead weight cap.


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Then what was he thinking sinking $6 million into the bottom pair? They should've kept that room free to ensure maximum flexibility.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Still putting 40 shots up against them. Just need more finishing ability and this team will be scary.

Finishing ability is something players are generally born with. They aren’t likely to find it in the bottom of a Cracker Jack box.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Then what was he thinking sinking $6 million into the bottom pair? They should've kept that room free to ensure maximum flexibility.

I hated both the Zadorov and Gudbranson deals. Did then, still do.


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[kobasew19]

Hanifin needs to get off the second power play unit. Put Dube or Coleman out there.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Hard to make major moves when you have zero cap room. It means you need to give up valuable assets to obtain the major moves, plus likely give up valuable assets to have someone take your dead weight cap.


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Ya that's what I'm thinking. It will cost a 1st just to free up the cap space unfortunately

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by kobasew19

Hanifin needs to get off the second power play unit. Put Dube or Coleman out there.

Dube haș been ineffective for quite some time.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Finishing ability is something players are generally born with. They aren’t likely to find it in the bottom of a Cracker Jack box.


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I meant by acquiring players who can finish.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Nightmare road trip is over That's good at least.

Oh, so the Flames gave up way more high danger chances and gave up far more goals than usual? Let me check why that may have happened...

Oh look, they faced the #2, 5, and 10 offenses in the league. Why are we surprised that they were able to score a decent number of goals against the Flames? Of course, when you're trailing, you have to open it up to get back in it, and that's when the extra goals against get piled on top.

Just had to mention they scored 3 goals on the #1 defense in the league in Carolina (just 2.15 GA/G). That was on their third hard game in 4 nights on the road.

I thought they could maybe eek out an OT/SO win against one of these teams, but this is far from surprising.

Honestly, can they just play a game or two at home? Why won't they go home?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I hated both the Zadorov and Gudbranson deals. Did then, still do.


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Pretty poor take then IMO
Gudbranson has been worth every penny, you would be hard pressed to get more for under 2M

Flames still have a good record and he is a big part of it. Despite almost zero home games the Flames are still on a 99 point pace. Second in the division

[Mr.Coffee]

Backlund deciding not to care anymore is a huge issue. Holding back whoever else pairs up with him, such as Coleman although he had a couple good games this trip and scored a couple.

Just blown away at Backlund. Have some pride, yikes.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by kobasew19

Hanifin needs to get off the second power play unit. Put Dube or Coleman out there.

Coleman on the PP for sure should happen.

[Dion]

After these 3 games the Flames have some work to do if they want to compete on an elite level.

We need some scoring from the bottom 2 lines and i'm of the belief that Pelletier should be called up and given a chance.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Hope Mangiapane gets going soon. He is ice cold. 2 points in his last nine games, and both were in the game vs. Seattle

I have absolutely zero issue with Vladar right now.

The goal everybody is complaining about was a snapshot through Hanifin’s legs. I don’t think it hit his skate. Absolutely no guarantee Vladar saw it come off the stick. Basically because he got a piece of it, people call it a bad goal.

That’s it.

Goal 1, awesome tip. That’s the kind of goal that beats goalies when well placed. Goalies get set for the shot, cover what, 85% of the net? No time to completely react to the tip, physics dictate otherwise. Tips either hit the goalie, go in, hit iron or go wide. Good tip
Goal 2, Rucizka gets walked, brutal coverage on Stepan. Perfectly placed shot, from the slot, Vladar isn’t supposed to be on the far post. Made a good save attempt but shot was well placed
Goal 3, as mentioned above
Goal 4, rebound is batted off the crossbar and a weird bounce other side, Flames are watching, two in a log jam on the left post, deAngelo is there. Not a chance for Vladar. And not replicable by Carolina
Goal 5 - time and space from just above the hash marks. Walks in and places it perfectly
Goal 6 - over the shoulder beside the helmet is again a shot location that a lot of guys aim for. When they place it there. It’s a snipe. You can’t put your blocker beside your ear.

I don’t care much for goal counts and save % in small sample sizes

Vladar was lights out vs Tampa and stopped everything he reasonably should have tonight, except I will concede goal 3 is debatable. I will not call it bad though, just up for discussion.

Also, goal 6 was a PPG. Who on god’s green earth was advising Sutter to challenge goal 5?

Too bad they played these three teams all in a row.

They looked good for 15 minutes, but when Carolina pressed in the late first, it felt like the Flames had spent all of their bullets and were going to have to hang on

I’m not worried. It’s mainly the West they need to focus on now

[direwolf]

Just looked at their upcoming schedule, and the Flames play only 4 home games over the next month. Man, they really got shafted with the scheduling this year.

[Classic_Sniper]

Disappointing end to the road trip, but not unexpected either. I’m very curious to see how the Flames would do against these same 3 teams at home. The thing about having a top heavy team is that the bottom lines can be a detriment and that was tonight. That 4th line was an absolute abomination whenever they were on the ice. The momentum completely shifted after they allowed that second goal. At home, with last change, at the very least, we could control the match up with the last change.

Vladar couldn’t save us tonight. A couple back breaking goals right off the ice. A bit of a softie that tricked in. Not the Flames night tonight, glad that portion of the road trip is over. Time to get back home, reset, refresh and get back to playing teams that can’t score at will. Those elite teams just have the kind of depth that we simply cannot match up against.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Backlund deciding not to care anymore is a huge issue. Holding back whoever else pairs up with him, such as Coleman although he had a couple good games this trip and scored a couple.

Just blown away at Backlund. Have some pride, yikes.

I'd say he tried tonight. And the difference was astounding. Even though he couldn't finish on his heap of chances.

Goes to show just how many he's phoned in, or given a 60 or 70% effort in this season. Probably 80% of the games.

The Florida games both looked like ones they were just looking to get through/check off the list, rather than make a valiant effort to take points out of by tending to the details of the game and being tenacious on the puck like they have been in 25~ of their games this season.

They showed spurts of it tonight, but that's probably only because they're embarrassed and their coach gave them hell for the last one.

Have to applaud Gaudreau and Coleman. Also Kylington. The three standouts in these three games.

Where was Lucic? Did he leave his consciousness on a beach chair sipping a mojito?

[getoverit]

Blood bath road trip. Done it’s over. Month of January teams remaining to play looks ugly. We need to turnaround playing our conference strong for any hope.

[1qqaaz]

I think the Flames will be fine once they tighten up defensively. It's part of their team identity in a Sutter system.

Play hard, play smart. Get those save percentages back up. There's a strong correlation between the Flames winning and the goalies' save percentages. But a lot of that comes to defense.

We knew that guys like Mangiapane were going to slow down in terms of production.
But the defense can be sustainable if the Flames buckle down. That's why defense wins cups.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think the Flames will be fine once they tighten up defensively. It's part of their team identity in a Sutter system.

Play hard, play smart. Get those save percentages back up. There's a strong correlation between the Flames winning and the goalies' save percentages. But a lot of that comes to defense.

We knew that guys like Mangiapane were going to slow down in terms of production.
But the defense can be sustainable if the Flames buckle down. That's why defense wins cups.

Agreed. And strong defence leads to offence.

If they get back to being 'stifling' rather than pretending they're the panthers who can come in waves, then they'll start to dictate games to the style they can win with again.

I think they got cocky about their game after Seattle and Chicago. Probably felt like they could go end to end with the Florida teams and leave the details behind.

[zamler]

I'm not mad Flames don't have the horses to compete with elite teams.