[News] World Junior Russians Disrupt Flight

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

For smoking on a plane or bus? I’ve seen people drink themselves into stupefication on public transit in Europe, floor littered with empty bottles and cans. And nobody bats an eyelid.

We live in one of the most law-abiding, upright, uptight countries in the world. Which is nice in a lot of ways. But people don’t realize unless they leave North America just how different most of the rest of the world is.

You miss my point, the state allowing a behaviour in Russia that is banned here doesnt mean they have more or any freedom, you can get drunk and get arrested on a bus here, go to court and get a fine, you can also spark up a joint or start telling the other passengers you think the Liberals are corrupt and need to be booted out, try that in Moscow

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

You miss my point, the state allowing a behaviour in Russia that is banned here doesnt mean they have more or any freedom, you can get drunk and get arrested on a bus here, go to court and get a fine, you can also spark up a joint or start telling the other passengers you think the Liberals are corrupt and need to be booted out, try that in Moscow

I’m fairly sure they’d take a relaxed attitude if you badmouthed the Liberals in Moscow.

[AustinL_NHL]

Edit: wrong thread

[Manhattanboy]

Definitely deserved to be kicked off the plane.

[Itse]

Vaping is not considered smoking in Russia, you can vape basically anywhere there.

Obviously not an excuse when you're not in Russia.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Calling out objective d-baggery is a measure of how jealous we are as Canadians of Russian freedoms and societal norms is certainly...a unique take.

Not Russian freedoms, but the Russians level of GAF, which is rooted in their culture. We all wish we could go back to not walking on eggshells around the looming pandemic and it showed in the brutality of the responses here. That's what I was calling out.

Note I did say it was indecent, ####y and dumb in multiple posts.

People sure love to run with their own narratives here rather than ask for clarification.

You couldn't pay me any sum of money large enough to live out my days in Russia. #### that place.

[The Cobra]

Regardless of what they were used to in Russia, when they were told not to vape etc. On the plane, they should have been smart enough to comply. They should have realized that the failure to comply with the orders of the people in charge would not end well.


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[Smartcar]

Originally Posted by codynw

Yea it's wild to me that a bunch of high level hockey players under the age of 20 smoke cigarettes in 2022.

When I was in St Petersburg there were gorgeous models handing out free cigarettes outside transit stations (I think the van said Pall Mall). Of course there was a huge crowd around. It was 25 years ago but I was shocked there were no laws against it, there probably still aren’t. I’ve never smoked but with that kind of encouragement I’m not surprised.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Smartcar

When I was in St Petersburg there were gorgeous models handing out free cigarettes outside transit stations (I think the van said Pall Mall). Of course there was a huge crowd around. It was 25 years ago but I was shocked there were no laws against it, there probably still aren’t. I’ve never smoked but with that kind of encouragement I’m not surprised.

Same thing happened to me in LA, except the gorgeous models were recruiting for the Church of Scientology. Free Personality test they claim lol

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Well, not specifically that activity on an enclosed airplane. But in general.

We don't exactly have a lot of freedoms here at the moment, even with omicron being about as harmful as a moderate cold and most of us being double vaxxed.

People want to let loose here and not have it be a huge problem like it is. It's natural they would hate on the care-free recklessness of the Russians, as opposed to just calling it dumb and moving on.

There is clearly a bit of emotional charge and snideness in responses here.

"care-free recklessness"??? that's actually hilarious.

[Bingo]

The feisty phase of CP continues.

Was wondering how this topic became three pages, didn't see an argument about cultural freedom of Eastern Europe vs North America!

[gvitaly]

I think it’s just teens/young adults acting out. It’s stupid, but I wouldn’t judge all Russians based on it. New Years for Russians is also like Christmas for Canadians and then some… it’s the biggest holiday of the year. I’m sure they were pissed about spending it on a plane because their tournament was canceled. I bet they were of the opinion they should’ve stayed home.

That said, it doesn’t excuse their behaviour. They disrupted the flight, and will have to deal with the consequences. Hopefully it will be a learning experience for them.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

People sure love to run with their own narratives here rather than ask for clarification.

That's typically how a message board works. A person says something and people interpret their point. If you didn't make your point clear enough in the two posts you made that's not anyone else's fault.

But no, I am not envious of these Russian teenagers lack of GAF on this flight. At no time before or during the pandemic have I had the urge to vape, smoke, harass attendants, or blare The Tragically Hip and delay a flight.

That's not a cultural thing. That's just being a group of a-holes.

[undercoverbrother]

####ing commies

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Do you mean "rule", not live? Why the flying #### would anybody want to live in a corrupt hellhole?

Not sure, yet here we all are

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dino7c

A PLANE

its not the same...nowhere in the world can you smoke on a plane these days

drunk idiots on public transit is nothing new. You can't act like a dip#### at the airport or on a plane these days or this is what happens. Hope they enjoyed the extra night in Calgary at their own expense only to tuck tail today and follow all the rules or spend yet another night at your own expense. Way to stick it to the man!

You can smoke on...'The Money Plane!'

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I think it’s just teens/young adults acting out. It’s stupid, but I wouldn’t judge all Russians based on it. New Years for Russians is also like Christmas for Canadians and then some… it’s the biggest holiday of the year. I’m sure they were pissed about spending it on a plane because their tournament was canceled. I bet they were of the opinion they should’ve stayed home.

That said, it doesn’t excuse their behaviour. They disrupted the flight, and will have to deal with the consequences. Hopefully it will be a learning experience for them.

I wouldn’t judge all Russians either, but it wasn’t just players involved. The coach was in it as well.

[Macman]

So how did they get back to Russia, another flight with Air Canada?

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Macman

So how did they get back to Russia, another flight with Air Canada?

They got on Grigor Andelov's private plane where vaping was allowed.

The vaping likely was an inconvenience, but the Russian metal music got their ass thrown off that plane.

[Steve Macfarlane]

They build them different in Russia.

Have you guys seen these quotes yet from Zadorov? He's not totally wrong here ... I was going to start a thread on it but maybe it suits this one too.

https://calgaryhockeynow.com/calgary...mpics-omicron/