2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Blues did expose Taransenko and he looked as broken as Monahan.

The Flames should’ve exposed Monahan and kept Sam Bennett. If the Flames are indeed playoff bound and it looks very promising, having a guy like Bennett who ramps up his game and physicality in the post season would be very helpful.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think you might be surprised. Monahan only has one year left, in other words, term isn’t much of an issue. For a rebuilding team and there is enough of a sweetener attached coming with Monahan, why not? The Flames could also retain salary in a potential deal.

A few weels back I thought Stienberg had a reasonable proposition; Monahan a 1st and a prospect for Hertl. Why does SJ do it? Obviously for the prospect and the pick. Plus you get Monahan as an asset, could he be flipped for more? Would Ottawa have interest? What about Boston? On the other hand the Flames add Hertl for the remainder of this year. Can they resign him? There’s probably good reason for both sides to entertain that option. And if he walks? Well, the Flames have that more more cap space to resign/sign players. If you took Monahan off this roster tomorrow with nothing coming back, there might not be that much of a material difference. It’s a risk I think they should consider taking. Bare in mind Sutter was pretty forthright about his, and presumably the organizations, intent to contend/win. Could have been lip service, but I doubt that. I think the Flames see themselves as knocking on the door of contention.

Monny has negative value today.

Hertl is easily worth a first and a prospect by himself.

You are essentially having SJ take Monny when they can get the same value and keep the cap space.


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[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

The Flames should’ve exposed Monahan and kept Sam Bennett. If the Flames are indeed playoff bound and it looks very promising, having a guy like Bennett who ramps up his game and physicality in the post season would be very helpful.

Boohoo he's gone. Time to give up the same Bennett could of reach his potential in here stuff. He wasn't going to, Mentally he needed a fresh start.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

The Flames should’ve exposed Monahan and kept Sam Bennett. If the Flames are indeed playoff bound and it looks very promising, having a guy like Bennett who ramps up his game and physicality in the post season would be very helpful.

Hindsight that would have been the best move but one would wonder would we had the Kylington breakout if we lost Monahan to Seattle instead of Gio?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Monny has negative value today.

Hertl is easily worth a first and a prospect by himself.

You are essentially having SJ take Monny when they can get the same value and keep the cap space.


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Vancouver was able to offload Ericsson. It happens.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Vancouver was able to offload Ericsson. It happens.

Yeah but a big part of that was getting Vancouver to take on OEL's deal. It would be like trading Monahan for Marc-Eduard Vlassic.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hindsight that would have been the best move but one would wonder would we had the Kylington breakout if we lost Monahan to Seattle instead of Gio?

I don't think Monahan being available would have made Seattle change their selection. Giordano would still be gone.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Yeah but a big part of that was getting Vancouver to take on OEL's deal. It would be like trading Monahan for Marc-Eduard Vlassic.

I hear what you’re saying but I would say Monahan has more tread left on the tire than Ericsson. I would also take OEL over MEV.

If Monahan had several years left, I doubt the Flames would be able to find a taker but with only one year left, I think there is a decent chance they can move him. Ericsson was one example but I’m reasonably sure there have been players with one year left on a downward trajectory who have been moved.

On another front I wonder if the Habs could be enticed to take Monahan back in a trade involving Anderson. Depending on how Gorton feels about it I wonder if he might want to get from under that contract and it has been stated by a few people close to the team Treliving has liked Anderson. I would imagine MTL would have interest in picking up additional 1st round picks this year.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I hear what you’re saying but I would say Monahan has more tread left on the tire than Ericsson. I would also take OEL over MEV.

If Monahan had several years left, I doubt the Flames would be able to find a taker but with only one year left, I think there is a decent chance they can move him. Ericsson was one example but I’m reasonably sure there have been players with one year left on a downward trajectory who have been moved.

On another front I wonder if the Habs could be enticed to take Monahan back in a trade involving Anderson. Depending on how Gorton feels about it I wonder if he might want to get from under that contract and it has been stated by a few people close to the team Treliving has liked Anderson. I would imagine MTL would have interest in picking up additional 1st round picks this year.

Monahan looks broken, I could honestly see this being his last contract.

[dino7c]

fun fact

Sam Bennett has ONE more point than Monahan this season despite playing on a top line

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Monahan looks broken, I could honestly see this being his last contract.

I think it’s more likely Monahan bounces around on low dollar contracts for a few years yet, unless he truly is broken and decides to retire. If he wants to play, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some teams roll the dice.

The Leafs-Canes deal for Marleau is also a reasonable comparison in this case. The Leafs gave up Marleau, 13OA, and a 7th for a 6th round pick. Marleau was then bought out of the final year of his deal. If the Flames are able to find a willing partner, I’ve suggested MTL and SJ as two options, there’s a deal to be made.

Whatever happens I don’t think the Flames are necessarily stuck with Monahan. There is precedent of similar players/contracts being dealt.

[TheChief]

If you look at Sean's game objectively



He doesn't skate good.
He doesn't defend good
Hes not tough
He cant grind


Ill give him this, by the eye test he is one of our best faceoff men, and I think that is why he is still on PP1.



At the end of the day I believe he caught fire by being setup by Johnny and expectations were elevated because of that. I dont think his game has improved much since season one to be honest (other then faceoffs).


He may be bought out this summer.

[AC]

Monahan is definitely not the same player.

But last night he made a nice play to retrieve the puck on Johnny's 2nd goal, and also threw a big hit which lead to Seattle retaliating by taking a penalty on him, which we scored on. 4th line centre that is working on getting his game back, but also plays on PP1. An interesting player at this stage.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Boohoo he's gone. Time to give up the same Bennett could of reach his potential in here stuff. He wasn't going to, Mentally he needed a fresh start.

I would’ve gladly traded Sean Monahan and given Sam Bennett his job if it meant we could keep playoff Sam Bennett. His performance in the playoff bubble was astounding.

If the Flames make it to the dance this season, I think we’re going to wish we had a player like Sam Bennett who can hit and forecheck and create offense with his physicality. I’d certainly take that over wondering what the heck the Flames are going to do about Monahan’s contract next season.

Heck, I’m already wondering about this season, if he can’t be trusted to be reliable defensively, then he shouldn’t be in the line up. The top line can’t always score 3-4 goals every game to counteract Monahan’s consistently negative goal differential. Thank goodness for Lindholm’s +23 this season, that’s a 33 goal difference right there between the 2 players, without that, this team wouldn’t be where they are right now.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hindsight that would have been the best move but one would wonder would we had the Kylington breakout if we lost Monahan to Seattle instead of Gio?

I don’t know if we even needed Sam Bennett to break out like Kylington. To me, I’ve always like the idea of having a cheap secret weapon that could go Hulk in the playoffs, even if his regular season stats weren’t quite up to par. At the very least, you’re saving some cap hit on his contract. He may look like $2M forward in the regular season, but looks like a $5M forward in the playoffs.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Vancouver was able to offload Ericsson. It happens.

They gave up a first round pick, a second round pick and took on the boat anchor contract of OEL.

Yeah, it happens, if you pay the price.


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[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by dino7c

fun fact

Sam Bennett has ONE more point than Monahan this season despite playing on a top line

That is fun.

It's as if Bennett has reached some sort of god-like status on this board.

He had a new team bump for about 20 games including playoffs. Aside from that he's still pretty ordinary. No offense to the folks that want to stroke his moustache and elect him prime minister.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by AC

Monahan is definitely not the same player.

But last night he made a nice play to retrieve the puck on Johnny's 2nd goal, and also threw a big hit which lead to Seattle retaliating by taking a penalty on him, which we scored on. 4th line centre that is working on getting his game back, but also plays on PP1. An interesting player at this stage.

He's a middle six center that can do some unexpectedly great little things for you on the ice because of his highly cerebral hockey sense. That tends to persist even when your body is not what it was.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

They gave up a first round pick, a second round pick and took on the boat anchor contract of OEL.

Yeah, it happens, if you pay the price.


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Well, to be accurate it was Ericsson, Beagle, Roussell 9OA, 2nd Rd pick and 7th rd pick for OEL and Garland who needed to be resigned. AZ also retained salary.

Monahan can be moved.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

He's a middle six center that can do some unexpectedly great little things for you on the ice because of his highly cerebral hockey sense. That tends to persist even when your body is not what it was.

Sutter disagrees. He is a 4th line center with PP time