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Old 12-23-2021, 09:34 AM   #641
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In fact, here is a picture of the encounter.:

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Hard to argue with that evidence.

The incident itself is actually very interesting. There were dozens of young kids that all saw it at the same time, the teachers inside the school heard their reactions and the kids independently described a very similar series of events and witnessed phenomena. I think it's one of the most compelling UFO stories out there.






The odds that this was a coordinated effort by the school children to create a global hoax seems less likely than them having witnessed some sort of bizarre phenomena. Kids that age are horrible liars and as far as I can tell they've all maintained the original story and some are still talking about it.


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The incident itself is actually very interesting. There were dozens of young kids that all saw it at the same time, the teachers inside the school heard their reactions and the kids independently described a very similar series of events and witnessed phenomena. I think it's one of the most compelling UFO stories out there.






The odds that this was a coordinated effort by the school children to create a global hoax seems less likely than them having witnessed some sort of bizarre phenomena. Kids that age are horrible liars and as far as I can tell they've all maintained the original story and some are still talking about it.


It's interesting. I read a little bit about it. The one thing I find most interesting though is that Indigenous kids originally interpreted what they saw as creatures from their native folklore, while non-Indigenous people went in the alien direction, so there does seem to be some power of cultural suggestion at work.

I just find it hard to believe that if aliens came to Earth with an important message to share with humans regarding protecting the planet, that they would choose children aged 5-12 in a rural and remote part of the world to target, especially considering almost none of them want to talk about it today. For a highly advanced civilization, it would seem like such a waste of time. The initial reports the kids gave also lacked the environmentalist angle which didn't come up until another researcher (John Mack), who was a known environmentalist as well as a UFOlogist, suggested it.
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I interpreted as the 'alien' just made a mistake. Maybe he readjusted and got his message to the right people so the environment wasn't destroyed? Though it is a message that really fits the spirit of the time and sounds like something a school kid would say.

I think one of the reasons UFOs seem so accident prone is that it may be a huge exertion on their part to even interact with us in any meaningful way, which makes it easy to make a mistake. We also can't assume that the 'aliens' would be a homogeneous entity, it could just as easily be a variety of groups with different goals and different technology.
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I just find it hard to believe that if aliens came to Earth with an important message to share with humans regarding protecting the planet, that they would choose children aged 5-12 in a rural and remote part of the world to target, especially considering almost none of them want to talk about it today. For a highly advanced civilization, it would seem like such a waste of time. The initial reports the kids gave also lacked the environmentalist angle which didn't come up until another researcher (John Mack), who was a known environmentalist as well as a UFOlogist, suggested it.
As mentioned before, you might not be able to apply human logic to anything about this. The way you rationalize or deduce outcomes may not be the way another intelligent species would. And there are also other cases - including adults - of "abductees" and people who's had close encounters given similar messages.

As for the "initial reports" you are comparing initial media coverage questions to the methods of a renowned pediatric psychiatrist who was also the head of the Psychiatry department at Harvard. I don't think it's fair to compare one with another, when the latter has a far more structured approach to engaging people about close encounters (the Ruwa incident isn't his only work on the UFO file).
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Old 12-23-2021, 03:29 PM   #645
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I interpreted as the 'alien' just made a mistake. Maybe he readjusted and got his message to the right people so the environment wasn't destroyed? Though it is a message that really fits the spirit of the time and sounds like something a school kid would say.

I think one of the reasons UFOs seem so accident prone is that it may be a huge exertion on their part to even interact with us in any meaningful way, which makes it easy to make a mistake. We also can't assume that the 'aliens' would be a homogeneous entity, it could just as easily be a variety of groups with different goals and different technology.
If there are two alien races simultaneously visiting us then intelligent life must be abundant. In that case we should have detected radiation of some kind from the galaxy indicating some level of intelligence out there.

The simple absence of artificial radiation suggests scarcity.
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You’re assuming we have the understanding of the technologies and signatures they may leave behind. Basing everything on our limited context is maybe part of the problem?
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On October 4 1967 flashing lights could be seen in the sky, and an unidentified large object made contact with the waters of Shag Harbour, Nova Scotia. After investigations from the Canadian Coast Guard, the RCMP, and the Canadian Armed Forces and reports and speculation from witnesses, journalists, and UFO enthusiasts the event would later become the most well-known UFO incident in Canada.
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Shag Harbour is Canada's Roswell in terms of infamy. That or that weird UFO sighting in Manitoba in the 60's where that dude got burned on his stomach in a grid pattern (the Falcon Lake incident):

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...sary-1.4121639
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Also, for those who are so inclined, here is an hour of fun footage montages put together by Mexican journalist and Ufologist Jaime Maussan. An interesting video to paw through in terms of footage of different types of crafts and situations that may or may not be hoaxes. Most footage is from outside the U.S.

Do try and ignore the somewhat cringy ominous music and cut graphics.

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Funny how a story grows over the years from kids breaking into boats and playing with the stolen flare guns to a full fledged UFO incident
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Funny how a story grows over the years from kids breaking into boats and playing with the stolen flare guns to a full fledged UFO incident
Funny how people mock stories like this withpot hearing the evidence. A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste
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Funny how people mock stories like this withpot hearing the evidence. A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste
I can PM you what I know about Shag Harbour if you like, publicly I will say that "doc" you posted is complete BS
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Come on. Don't play coy. Why wouldn't you just make your statement on this page? Don't want to be open to critical deconstruction of your story? Considering there were law enforcement witnesses/involvement, the coast guard, and military were involved for multiple days, your claim of "flares" doesn't seem like a reasonable explanation. But please, do share what you "know" about an incident that took place almost six decades ago.
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Smartest thing the dudes working at the Skunkworks ever did was to foster the UFO / “Little Green Men” stories.

The gullible will straight up believe it’s aliens. The intelligent will suspect otherwise but anything factual that actually got leaked will be swept aside in an avalanche of pesudo science BS.

Well played gents. Well played.
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I can PM you what I know about Shag Harbour if you like, publicly I will say that "doc" you posted is complete BS
Don't be an ass! If you have something then post it here for everyone to see.
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This is interesting, especially given the timing of the launch of the James Webb Telescope today:

Heavens above: Nasa enlists priest to prepare for an alien discovery

As space agencies launch new telescopes, rovers and probes to look for habitable planets and alien life beyond Earth, a British priest has been helping Nasa to understand how the discovery of extraterrestrials would change the way we see the universe.

The Rev Dr Andrew Davison, a priest and theologian at the University of Cambridge with a doctorate in biochemistry from Oxford, is among 24 theologians to have taken part in a Nasa-sponsored programme at the Center for Theological Inquiry (CTI) at Princeton in the US to assess how the world’s major religions would react to news that life exists on worlds beyond our own.


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Shhhhh. It's all a cover story dreamed up by them Skonk Works fellers. Just gullible fools continue to fall for it, like those dip####s at NASA and DoD. Well played fellers. Well played.
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You’re assuming we have the understanding of the technologies and signatures they may leave behind. Basing everything on our limited context is maybe part of the problem?
Well pretty much every ‘sighting’ on earth involves them producing light. And they don’t seem to be trying to hide that light, so we should have detected their light emissions at the very least.
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This is interesting, especially given the timing of the launch of the James Webb Telescope today:

Heavens above: Nasa enlists priest to prepare for an alien discovery

As space agencies launch new telescopes, rovers and probes to look for habitable planets and alien life beyond Earth, a British priest has been helping Nasa to understand how the discovery of extraterrestrials would change the way we see the universe.

The Rev Dr Andrew Davison, a priest and theologian at the University of Cambridge with a doctorate in biochemistry from Oxford, is among 24 theologians to have taken part in a Nasa-sponsored programme at the Center for Theological Inquiry (CTI) at Princeton in the US to assess how the world’s major religions would react to news that life exists on worlds beyond our own.


https://twitter.com/user/status/1473812038132633605
We'll see who does the probing now.
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Well pretty much every ‘sighting’ on earth involves them producing light. And they don’t seem to be trying to hide that light, so we should have detected their light emissions at the very least.
On a galactic level? Against the backdrop of the light from the stars other planets orbit?
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