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Old 12-23-2021, 02:34 AM   #6441
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In these trade speculation threads we always seen to be giving up multiple first riund picks, 2 or 3 starting players and our best prospect for 1 player.

Does that ever happen?
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Not a chance with Treliving, this is a GM that allows a divisional rival to snap up a top 5 center for always injured 20 goal capable winger, a prospect center who got his hype from a junior tournament and a 1st. he could have beat this package with ease and we wouldn't have even noticed

Sorry, I'll never get over that epic fail
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Old 12-23-2021, 08:03 AM   #6443
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Not a chance with Treliving, this is a GM that allows a divisional rival to snap up a top 5 center for always injured 20 goal capable winger, a prospect center who got his hype from a junior tournament and a 1st. he could have beat this package with ease and we wouldn't have even noticed

Sorry, I'll never get over that epic fail
You’ll never get over it as long as you don’t accept the fact that Buffalo was in love with the Vegas players
According to 32 thoughts their ask of Anaheim was two firsts, Drysdale and Zegras
Not sure what the Flames equivalent would be
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Old 12-23-2021, 08:03 AM   #6444
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lol

Let the Zach Senyshyn sweepstakes begin
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Old 12-23-2021, 08:08 AM   #6445
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Not a chance with Treliving, this is a GM that allows a divisional rival to snap up a top 5 center for always injured 20 goal capable winger, a prospect center who got his hype from a junior tournament and a 1st. he could have beat this package with ease and we wouldn't have even noticed

Sorry, I'll never get over that epic fail
The epic fail is people who pass judgement when they have what may be 5 percent of the information or facts of the discussions between the actual parties involved. I think 5 percent is generous.
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Let the Zach Senyshyn sweepstakes begin
I wonder which team will be sending future considerations?
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Old 12-23-2021, 08:16 AM   #6447
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Now they just need Zboril to demand a trade, and they will have gone 3 for 3 in that first round!
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They already are all in. They only have 6 players including Chychrun signed for next season and not on ELC contracts. None of their RFAs look to be getting significant raises.

I fully expect them to leverage their cap space next season for more salary cap dumps and assets.

This is a complete scorched earth rebuild.
Full scorched earth. Get rid of your players. Get rid of your fan. Get rid of your arena.
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Now they just need Zboril to demand a trade, and they will have gone 3 for 3 in that first round!
Those picks being odd isn't even hindsight, it was unexplainable basically from the moment they happened.
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Old 12-23-2021, 09:40 AM   #6451
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Now they just need Zboril to demand a trade, and they will have gone 3 for 3 in that first round!
Home run picks of Pasternak, McAvoy, Carlo and maintained excellence from Bergeron and Marchand have allowed the Bruins to maintain success even when flubbing on those picks.

It is crazy to see the next 3 players selected though as Barzal, Connor, and Chabot and wonder how good the Bruins would be if they made those picks?
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Old 12-23-2021, 09:43 AM   #6452
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It's probably not realistic that they would have picked all 3 but I suspect what haunts Bruins is that they didn't get ANY of them. That sh** would keep me up at night.
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the Bruins got 6 players in McKenzie's top 52. Some were drafted higher, others were drafted lower. Such is the nature of drafting.

https://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-s-final-...l-and-1.300634
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Old 12-23-2021, 09:53 AM   #6454
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I'm not involved in that nor am I a Bruins fan and I actually thought about it the other day. That is a scary team if they had Barzal, Connor and Chabot to add to their current mix.
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Old 12-23-2021, 10:00 AM   #6455
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The right pick at 15 in 2015 was Kylington. Chabot hype came after the draft.
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Not a chance with Treliving, this is a GM that allows a divisional rival to snap up a top 5 center for always injured 20 goal capable winger, a prospect center who got his hype from a junior tournament and a 1st. he could have beat this package with ease and we wouldn't have even noticed

Sorry, I'll never get over that epic fail
What uninformed nonsense.

It’s not up to Treliving to simply say ‘I’m taking Eichel and here is what you are getting’. It’s been fairly well established that BUF targeted Krebs and Tuch. They presumably did their homework and prioritized two specific players probably for the attributes the players exhibit and fit in their organization. So, although you like to fantasize that the Flames could have beat that package (debatable) it might not have mattered.

Your take is a tired one and it really only says that you don’t even know what you don’t know.

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Old 12-23-2021, 10:43 AM   #6457
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Let the Zach Senyshyn sweepstakes begin
Bumping the white-hot speculation around third-liner/healthy scratch Debrusk out of the headlines. There are so few trades in the today’s NHL that this is what we’ve come to.
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Old 12-23-2021, 10:44 AM   #6458
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Not a chance with Treliving, this is a GM that allows a divisional rival to snap up a top 5 center for always injured 20 goal capable winger, a prospect center who got his hype from a junior tournament and a 1st. he could have beat this package with ease and we wouldn't have even noticed

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There's no much assumption and hyperbole here, not to mention just being incorrect about "with ease".

First, top 5 centre? Well assuming he's 100% after his injury maybe, and only if you think he's better than one or more of McDavid, Mackinnon, Draisaitl, Matthews, Barkov, Crosby, Point and Bergeron. He is on average, about a PPG centre. all of those guys score in that range (or much better in a few cases) and are not coming off unprecedented neck surgery. And he's arguably more "oft injured" than Tuch.

Speaking of Tuch, "oft-injured"? Well, he's had this surgery and been injured one previous time, for a portion of 19-20. Other than that, no he's been around full season, including 20-21. and 20 goal capable? He scored 18 in 55 games last season. His stats look a lot like Mangiapane's except he's way bigger, and on a long term value contract. And he wants to be in Buffalo.

The prospect was who Buffalo wanted, more than Calgary's, whether you like it or not.

The only way Treliving beats this "with ease" is if he trades Lindholm and trades two of Pelletier/Zary/Coronato, plus the picks. All other forwards they might want - Mangiapane or Tkachuk for example, have uncertain contract status and Tkachuk especially would end up being a rental.
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Old 12-23-2021, 10:47 AM   #6459
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Full scorched earth. Get rid of your players. Get rid of your fan. Get rid of your arena.
It ain't full scorched earth until you get Lou Brown to coach the team.
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Old 12-23-2021, 10:58 AM   #6460
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Maybe I'm a little late on this, but Chychrun is substantially better than Andersson, it's not close at all.

Chychrun is a #1, no questions asked.
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