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Old 12-21-2021, 10:26 PM   #301
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Disappointed it took three pages of vitriol for a mod to do anything.

Maybe it takes time to get caught up on 14 pages' worth of discussion. . .
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:27 PM   #302
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I was opposed to exorbitant amounts of money being spent on an arena, and absolutely hated and opposed Calgary Next, but the arena and convention centre was going to transform downtown and the entire area around the Stampede grounds. This project is just as important, if not more to the city of Calgary as it is to the Flames.
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Love the jab at not spending money at the dome because lol politics and taxes on a hockey forum which is dedicated to those who support the team that plays at the dome and probably is littered with people who do go to games…

Jesus Christ this is nuts.

Back to day 1 of those who go to games and those who don’t and why the “tax” money would be better spent somewhere else. News flash, taxes are going to continue to go up wether we get an arena or not, they never go down
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:29 PM   #304
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Whoever is whining about building in the city needs to try building something in Rocky View County. Have fun with that.
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I think what we all can agree on is that generally speaking there is a deep rooted passion for this club but also for the city and that passion is ringing true on both sides of this debate. There’s a happy ending to all of this and for all parties I’m just hoping that it’s able to be told… I can see where taxpayers are at a ‘when’s enough enough’ stance when it comes to costs and a couple billionaires quibbling over what amounts to more than a life time of earnings for much of the taxpayers who will be chipping into the project. At the end of the day though the posturing of this and timing of this are incredibly odd and a bad look I think on both sides. Here’s hoping they can come together and figure out a compromise but sadly I don’t think I’ll be holding my breath.
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Whoever is whining about building in the city needs to try building something in Rocky View County. Have fun with that.
This arena, a two city-block development, $600m plus went from submission to approval in about 100 days.
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The only thing kinda odd here is the need to “get in front of this” the way the mayor did.

Just gives off weird vibes. Grandstanding vibes.

I would think a proper strategy is to let the Flames actually cancel and then I am sure the media comes calling and you give comment then. Nothing is lost by letting it happen and it dares the Flames to actually do it in writing. Maybe it wouldn’t have gotten there?

I voted for the Mayor but knew I didn’t agree with the way she operated. The mayor seems to love a pulpit, and sometimes that can make things worse.
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Whoever is whining about building in the city needs to try building something in Rocky View County. Have fun with that.
Don’t you give Edwards any ideas.
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:44 PM   #309
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Actually, the City typically uses internal counsel in lawsuits. The Flames typically hire a variety of firms, depending on the issue. They aren’t involved in a lot of civil litigation. Mostly smaller employment or venue disputes. Edwards uses a fair number of the bigger firms for CNRL, so a lot of top firms might be conflicted out anyway.
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Look at her reaction to Chu. Refused to swear him in, appealed to the Alberta government to remove him.
Her urgent motion to debate legislation in Quebec and asking council to pledge $100,000.
Her declaration of a state of climate emergency.
She did these things, publicly, apparently before consulting with those who would know if she has a case.
The Alberta government had to inform her removing Chu was not in their authority.
Donating to to oppose legislation in Quebec seems ill-conceived.
Declaring a state of climate emergency without consulting the very businesses she relies on(Oil and Gas).
These all seem very knee jerk and emotional.

Well, the Province did say they’d look into ways of removing Chu if possible, so I don’t know what the problem there is.
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i don't care who's to blame here, but I don't think I can take any more bad news
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Hm. Really?

I'm most surprised that Government employees are even working at this time of year to make boneheaded decisions like these.

Thats probably against their employment conditions. Might have to take it up with a Rep.
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Hm. Really?

I'm most surprised that Government employees are even working at this time of year to make boneheaded decisions like these.

Thats probably against their employment conditions. Might have to take it up with a Rep.
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Just get the damn thing built.


The Flames need it, the city needs it and at the end of the day, taxes will still increase whether it gets built or not. The debate is the same in every city over sports venues and when they do eventually get built, no one is forced to move away due to the increase in taxes.

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Can’t believe I am missing Nenshi.
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Can’t believe I am missing Nenshi.

I can’t believe how ungrateful the CSEC is for what they’ve been given already.
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I can’t believe how ungrateful the CSEC is for what they’ve been given already.
New mayor seems like a lovely business partner.
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I didn’t know he was a huge Flames fan

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