[News Roundup] CSEC/City arena deal UPDATED: Third Party Facilitator

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not me.

I understand the finances quite well. Muppet and all.

Then, by all means explain how taxpayers funding a private use facility aligns with keeping your taxes low? The only thing the city gets is indirect revenue that can’t be directly attributed or effectively measured.

Also, for the record, I separate the team on the ice from the ownership group. So I find it quite rich coming from possibly the most condescending guy on this board on the regular outside of the departed MMF.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

He’ll move the team to Houston. I think Gondek just cost us the Flames, unfortunately.

What a terrible day to be from Calgary.

Houston? Well what’s the value of the Dallas Stars? I doubt they’d relocate there.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Ducay

She's been pretty terrible to date IMO, but in this instance, I agree with her position.

Thank god CSEC's yes-man Davison didn't win.

She’s about to get a lesson in big boy politics. This weak Twitter rant reeks of someone shell shocked who went all in with 7-2.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Yoho

She’s about to get a lesson in big boy politics. This weak Twitter rant reeks of someone shell shocked who went all in with 7-2.

haha

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

What this sounds like to me, is city administration coming up with new building permit fees relating to newer city policies in place, nothing to with the arena specifically, but something covering all new permits.

The city applied the policies to the building permit, and offered to even cover some of them.

A $650 million project has quite a few million dollars in various permit fees.

Perhaps it should have been budgeted for, but it sounds like these may be newer fees put in place by administration for all projects.

It isn’t the city trying to renegotiate the deal, it’s just applying it’s policies.

We just did an across the board 5% reduction on all permit fees. This would have actually reduced the Event Centre fee by a not immaterial number based on the construction value.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm wondering how this is effected by projected operating revenue for the Flames. I mean I ain't no fancy accountant. But asking them to start paying for cost over runs, and then the city moving the goalposts and adding cost over runs (Climate change, sidewalk stuff). When the team's operating expenses are low due to Covid and haven't been spectacular since its height in 2014 could have an effect on the Flames ownership mindset.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...rating-income/

There’s a lot of conjecture about “moving goalposts”. Just factually incorrect. Climate elements like solar panels were agreed to by the applicant in the approval. They did not have to agree to do it, there is no mechanism to require it.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Woman does things man doesn’t agree with.
Man says woman is emotional and knee jerk.

Has man given any consideration to her reasoning or the timeframe over which she made those decisions?
Nope.

what makes you think I disagree with her?
I think there are better, more measured, more productive ways of achieving a goal.

[Gemnoble]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Houston? Well what’s the value of the Dallas Stars? I doubt they’d relocate there.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...U.S.%20dollars.

575 million dollars apparently.

It's been long known that Houston is a highly desired location for a hockey team, I believe there was interest from some sort of ownership group and they'd want to keep the conference's equal. I don't think there's anywhere else in the west that makes sense.

[Gemnoble]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

what makes you think I disagree with her?
I think there are better, more measured, more productive ways of achieving a goal.

Ah, like being Male for instance?

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Bunk

There’s a lot of conjecture about “moving goalposts”. Just factually incorrect. Climate elements like solar panels were agreed to by the applicant in the approval. They did not have to agree to do it, there is no mechanism to require it.

Thanks Bunk.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Gemnoble

Ah, like being Male for instance?

What makes you think I'm male?

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not me.

I understand the finances quite well. Muppet and all.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Took me 30 minutes to get this.

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

lol perfect

[Gemnoble]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

What makes you think I'm male?

What makes you think I think your male?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Gemnoble

What makes you think I think your male?

Their male what?

[djsFlames]

Pretty sure that days when I'm more irritable strongly correlate with browsing anything politically related on CP for too long.

Just steer clear.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Yoho

She’s about to get a lesson in big boy politics. This weak Twitter rant reeks of someone shell shocked who went all in with 7-2.

That’s why Calgary deserves a real man as mayor. None of this bs whine o’clock, time for an old stock Calgarian with balls to take the helm. You people who didn’t vote for Davison should be ashamed!

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Then, by all means explain how taxpayers funding a private use facility aligns with keeping your taxes low? The only thing the city gets is indirect revenue that can’t be directly attributed or effectively measured.

Also, for the record, I separate the team on the ice from the ownership group. So I find it quite rich coming from possibly the most condescending guy on this board on the regular outside of the departed MMF.

Had a long response to this. Inappropriate one at that. Im sorry.


I'm stepping away from this.

I will dumb it down to this.....which is on topic.

I don't care that the city uses tax money to help build stuff I can use.

This arena is not just needed but long overdue.

Just an opinion of a taxpayer, just like anyone else.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Looch City

That’s why Calgary deserves a real man as mayor. None of this bs whine o’clock, time for an old stock Calgarian with balls to take the helm. You people who didn’t vote for Davison should be ashamed!

Oof

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Looch City

That’s why Calgary deserves a real man as mayor. None of this bs whine o’clock, time for an old stock Calgarian with balls to take the helm. You people who didn’t vote for Davison should be ashamed!

Is this...is this satire?