[News] Flames have 20 players, 3 coaches, and 10 support staff in COVID protocol

[Bingo]

Man this topic can drag the ugly out of people.

Pretty sad from my standpoint.

[dissentowner]

Well this thread has turned into a tire fire in a hurry.

[Robbob]

Don't know if it was posted, but back to back days with no new positive results. Hopefully that means then have turned the corner and we will start hearing about players exiting the covid protocol.

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Every government in the world conspired to destroy their economies and make themselves look terrible to trick rooster into wearing a mask.

It's so obvious you sheep

Only argument I can offer is the fact that all the multi billion dollar companies have seen significant growth.
-Amazon, Walmart Costco, pharmaceutical companies, E-commerce.

Small business are the lifeblood of our community’s and country. But this showed just what our leaders think and consider “essential services”. I’ve never seen so many small businesses close down, ever. Especially in smaller towns that rely on them.

Claresholm, Vulcan, Nanton, turner valley, Okotoks’s. some of these will pull through, but others were already struggling. The boomer generation is on their way out, and planned on leaving these businesses to their kids and grandkids. But now they’ll be leaving them with potential debt.


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[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Man this topic can drag the ugly out of people.
Pretty sad from my standpoint.

The time for being nice about lying and misinformation is long over.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

The time for being nice about lying and misinformation is long over.

That's silly.

I can argue passionately all day about almost any topic without hurling insults and profanity at people.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Instead of shutting down society for a virus that we have effective vaccines we're going to have to build up our medical infrastructure to handle the occasional wave of unvaxxed people who clog up the ICU's. I really feel for people who can't get the jab and want to, but, we can't shut down planet Earth in perpetuity for a small group of people. Maybe that sounds harsh but that's the pragmatic reality. Feel free to say I want to kill old people and etc if it makes you feel better to classify me as "the enemy" or "heartless". But we need to start accepting reality. I used to think my 4 and 5 year old would only know about COVID through an email journal I'm writing for them. Now I realize they'll grow up with it as part of their lexicon. Every year there will likely be a new strain and a new booster. We sadly have added a new more dangerous flu to our existing seasonal illnesses.

Pretty much this. Covid is endemic (which was unfortunately a likely result to begin with) and that's not solvable in the short term. Even if we vaccinate everybody, it only limits the effects.

The shutdowns are also extremely harmful, especially the longer they continue. People need social contacts, badly, otherwise they will become miserable and that in itself causes a lot of deaths. They need a life to function, and a functioning economy to live.

[PuckSlap]

The major difference that scientists have been finding with omicron is the virus is attaching itself to the bronchial passages, where as in the case or Covid 19, alpha wild type and Delta, the virus attached itself to the lung tissue causing types of pneumonia, drowning.

It would also make sense why this variants transmission rate is so high. With all that viral load being caught in the bronchial passage and dispelled so easily. Maybe?

The researchers found that Omicron SARS-CoV-2 infects and multiplies 70 times faster than the Delta variant and original SARS-CoV-2 in human bronchus, which may explain why Omicron may transmit faster between humans than previous variants. Their study also showed that the Omicron infection in the lung is significantly lower than the original SARS-CoV-2, which may be an indicator of lower disease severity. This research is currently under peer review for publication.}



https://researchnews.cc/news/10606/H...s#.Yb8Nai-l2QV



If any of the study’s we’ve seen are true, we would be very luck to have this.

#####covid

[Cain]

It is great to speculate and hope for Omicron being mild and not causing an increased burden on our healthcare system, but we should maybe put a pause on proclaiming that it will indeed be the case. There isn't a ton of data out there yet, and we do not know how things will shake out. It makes sense to be cautious.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

*you're

Trust grammar.

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Their's a high correlation between people being anti vax and not knowing there you're/yours.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Their's a high correlation between people being anti vax and not knowing there you're/yours.

Their *

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

Wow… every other study done says the exact opposite. All symptoms are more mild and similar to the common cold.

Hospitals beds are more instead of less in South Africa, and people who are in hospital were tested positive for unrelated reasons for hospitalization.


https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-...datcov-report/


https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/omicr...over-in-london

Here you can compare the most common symptoms of Covid, alpha, and Delta. The symptoms aren’t similar until you get down to the bottom 4. Fever, coughing, fatigue.

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/omicr...over-in-london

I don’t think the ZOE data supports your statement

From your links

To compare Delta and Omicron, London data was selected from a week where Delta was dominant (03-10.10.2021) and compared to the most recent data (03-10.12.2021). This initial analysis found no clear differences in the early symptoms (3 days after test) between Delta and Omicron.

Anyway we will know within a week once the UK sample gets larger and we can get real-time comparisons between Delta and Omicron rates of hospitalizations. Everyone is hoping for good news. The data to support it currently does not exist in an age adjusted, case adjusted manner.

Omicron case counts peaking in Guateng should mean that regardless of how bad it is it will be short lived.

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Their's a high correlation between people being anti vax and not knowing there you're/yours.

What about there's / their?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Their *

Whoosh

[Heavy Jack]

How you holding up textcritic?!?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Whoosh

Woosh*

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by GGG

I don’t think the ZOE data supports your statement

From your links


Anyway we will know within a week once the UK sample gets larger and we can get real-time comparisons between Delta and Omicron rates of hospitalizations. Everyone is hoping for good news. The data to support it currently does not exist in an age adjusted, case adjusted manner.

Omicron case counts peaking in Guateng should mean that regardless of how bad it is it will be short lived.

But it is a months worth of data. Ans it’s not at its peak; it’s fallen below that. Hospitals aren’t filling up in Guateng.

We won’t see definitive evidence until the numbers from London come through. But it’s looking the same


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[PuckSlap]

The top five symptoms reported in the ZOE app were:

runny nose
headache
fatigue (either mild or severe)
sneezing
sore throat
ZOE will be conducting further research into the symptom profile of Omicron in the coming weeks.


Ya, so I don’t what you mean by the link doesn’t show what I was saying.

Symptoms are lesser than delta. Because it’s not accumulating in the lungs and instead more in the bronchial passages. Hence the change in symptoms.

And when a virus is the nasal canal, passages And throat, the easier it is to transfer through droplets. Basically all 4 known coronavirus that circulate yearly.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1472603603546247171

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

But it is a months worth of data. Ans it’s not at its peak; it’s fallen below that. Hospitals aren’t filling up in Guateng.

We won’t see definitive evidence until the numbers from London come through. But it’s looking the same


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I'm not a virologist, obviously, but doesn't it make sense that the longer a virus carries on it finds itself a way to replicate more and be less deadly? It's not really in the interest of a virus to be so deadly that it can't carry on in more hosts