12-18-2021, 05:11 PM
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#781
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Originally Posted by Nancy
Originally Posted by Flames head physician Dr. Ian Auld
“We do have a few people, somewhere between four and six, and a lot of cases are in evolution so it may change, that have had moderate symptoms. Chills, fevers, fatigue, but turning the corner quickly, in 36 to 48 hours. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...players-staff/
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Seems like this mandatory 10 day quarantine for Omicron could be a joke, data so far is showing it's no worst than a bad cold, I think as soon as someone tests negative with no symptoms they should be good to go.
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12-18-2021, 05:23 PM
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#782
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
It isn't the scientists who are advocating eternal panic and endless lockdowns. It's the politicians, and people like you who swallow whatever they say.
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Those scientists with their education who make recommendations based upon experiences and extensive knowledge in the subject matter, always advocating panic! Do you think that scientists have something to gain by advocating for a lockdown/increased restrictions?
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12-18-2021, 05:37 PM
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#783
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
It isn't the scientists who are advocating eternal panic and endless lockdowns. It's the politicians, and people like you who swallow whatever they say.
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Thanks for the personal shot Jay Random!
God forbid we listen to Doctors instead of professional athletes!
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12-18-2021, 06:43 PM
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#784
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I think athletes may have more chance to die during the game if they are sick.
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12-18-2021, 06:45 PM
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#785
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Omicron is so much more transmissible than Delta, which was so much more transmissible than the original strain. I think we all need to just get with the idea that we're all going to get it at some point and most of us won't notice or have minor symptoms. We only had one chance at eliminating this thing and it was super early if I literally shutting down everything around the world for two or three weeks. We didn't do that and we can go back in time we just have to live with the fact that this thing is here to stay now.
If lockdowns and other serious measures previously didn't stop Delta and the original strain, we need stop pretending that lockdowns can and will stop Omicron. It simply won't. We should encourage everyone to be double vaccinated and that's really the only thing we can do at this point. I really feel like people are clinging to lockdowns because it gives them hope that we can actually eliminate this thing , and I'm not trying to offend anyone when I say that, I get the idea. But that's not happening. That ship has long since sailed. Barring a new strain that eliminates the effectiveness of vaccines from keeping people out of the hospital, we should be returning to normal. Because that's what we're living in right now: this is the new normal
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12-18-2021, 07:04 PM
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#786
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
It isn't the scientists who are advocating eternal panic and endless lockdowns. It's the politicians, and people like you who swallow whatever they say.
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Yes. Politicians approval number notoriously go up after announcing lockdowns. What an incredibly uninformed opinion.
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12-18-2021, 07:09 PM
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#787
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
Those scientists with their education who make recommendations based upon experiences and extensive knowledge in the subject matter, always advocating panic! Do you think that scientists have something to gain by advocating for a lockdown/increased restrictions?
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They have probably heavily invested in the sure thing stocks if the pandemic continues. They have just uncovered a bunch of politicians in the USA have been doing just that! I am sure Trudy has really padded the bank account since this all started.
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12-18-2021, 07:24 PM
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#788
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Yes. Politicians approval number notoriously go up after announcing lockdowns. What an incredibly uninformed opinion.
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The majority of people are pathetic losers that go to some ####ty job year after year because they need someone to tell them what to do. These people are easy to lead down the garden path and they are in the majority. Then you have to remember all the layabouts and welfare collectors that have to have everything decided for them and there is a lot of seniors that don't reason as well as they used to when they were younger.
All these people far outnumber entrepreneurs who work for themselves and can think and make decisions for themselves.
Society is getting dumber all the time.
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12-18-2021, 07:34 PM
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#789
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Originally Posted by rooster
The majority of people are pathetic losers that go to some ####ty job year after year because they need someone to tell them what to do. These people are easy to lead down the garden path and they are in the majority. Then you have to remember all the layabouts and welfare collectors that have to have everything decided for them and there is a lot of seniors that don't reason as well as they used to when they were younger.
All these people far outnumber entrepreneurs who work for themselves and can think and make decisions for themselves.
Society is getting dumber all the time.
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12-18-2021, 07:37 PM
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#790
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rooster
The majority of people are pathetic losers that go to some ####ty job year after year because they need someone to tell them what to do. These people are easy to lead down the garden path and they are in the majority. Then you have to remember all the layabouts and welfare collectors that have to have everything decided for them and there is a lot of seniors that don't reason as well as they used to when they were younger.
All these people far outnumber entrepreneurs who work for themselves and can think and make decisions for themselves.
Society is getting dumber all the time.
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Where's the condescending attack coming from?
It's true.. to an extent, but many people are plagued by fears of uncertainty in taking that kind of action when they've established a life that maybe isn't all they want but is secure.
It's not because people are stupid, but more cause people are afraid. And there's no more uncertain time than right now.
Making it as an entrepreneur does require an amount of bravery and risk in the face of potential failure, and more so persistence in their vision and that's commendable in a lot of ways. But people who make it also are aware of that terrifying barrier into the unknown that one must cross to "make it".
I don't think people who've truly made it berate or belittle the majority for not making the decisions they did. People who've made it more often want to help others realize their full potential too and take more risks.
Clearly you're airing frustrations about your own shortcomings on some level, otherwise you wouldn't be so riled up about what others do or don't amount to. That's their life and their prerogative.
I know for a fact that it doesn't feel good to think about humanity in such a way. Because that's not who you are, and it's a viscious way to see the world. We all have the same chromosomes and baseline genetic make up. I think it's important to respect what kind of mentality and life others choose to create for themselves, even if it isn't what you would choose, and just go about your own business.
There is such thing as becoming your best self and still retaining a respectful demeanor and perspective of the world. It feels better too, trust me. You're just isolating yourself with that kind of thinking. And you'll burn bridges too. And successful self-made people know how to navigate social relationships with a variety of people. Its an essential skill.
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12-18-2021, 08:03 PM
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#791
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
It isn't the scientists who are advocating eternal panic and endless lockdowns. It's the politicians, and people like you who swallow whatever they say.
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One would think after Alberta's devastating 4th wave attitudes like this would be maybe a little more reserved, but I guess not. How many times do you people need to be wrong before maybe realizing you don't know what you are talking about?
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12-18-2021, 08:14 PM
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#792
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Seems like this mandatory 10 day quarantine for Omicron could be a joke, data so far is showing it's no worst than a bad cold, I think as soon as someone tests negative with no symptoms they should be good to go.
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The quarantine is for the good of others, not for the good of the sick person. We don't have enough data to know for sure that it's more mild. If that turns out to be true, then great. Otherwise, it's smart to slow down the spread
I wouldn't be betting the lives of a whole bunch of people on two weeks worth of data
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12-18-2021, 08:28 PM
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#793
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 Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rooster
The majority of people are pathetic losers that go to some ####ty job year after year because they need someone to tell them what to do. These people are easy to lead down the garden path and they are in the majority. Then you have to remember all the layabouts and welfare collectors that have to have everything decided for them and there is a lot of seniors that don't reason as well as they used to when they were younger.
All these people far outnumber entrepreneurs who work for themselves and can think and make decisions for themselves.
Society is getting dumber all the time.
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This post has Alberta, 2006 energy.
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12-18-2021, 09:25 PM
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#795
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Omicron is so much more transmissible than Delta, which was so much more transmissible than the original strain. I think we all need to just get with the idea that we're all going to get it at some point and most of us won't notice or have minor symptoms. We only had one chance at eliminating this thing and it was super early if I literally shutting down everything around the world for two or three weeks. We didn't do that and we can go back in time we just have to live with the fact that this thing is here to stay now.
If lockdowns and other serious measures previously didn't stop Delta and the original strain, we need stop pretending that lockdowns can and will stop Omicron. It simply won't. We should encourage everyone to be double vaccinated and that's really the only thing we can do at this point. I really feel like people are clinging to lockdowns because it gives them hope that we can actually eliminate this thing , and I'm not trying to offend anyone when I say that, I get the idea. But that's not happening. That ship has long since sailed. Barring a new strain that eliminates the effectiveness of vaccines from keeping people out of the hospital, we should be returning to normal. Because that's what we're living in right now: this is the new normal
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rooster took a lot of heat off you but this is a pretty terrible post too
Alberta isn't locked down and hasn't been since the initial outbreak almost two years ago. We had a roll up on restrictions as our healthcare system was pushed to the absolutely brink last Christmas but that's it. Yeah, things are changed, you have to show documentation to do certain things, and I'm fine with that. I've learnt to live with it, most people have, but we absolutely cannot allow things roll out of control that everyones healthcare is in jeopardy.
No, lockdowns didn't permanently stop anything but the messaging has never been that, it's been simple to slow the spread, and that's what they do.
Burying ones head in the sand going "LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT!" is nonsense, ignorant nonsense
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12-18-2021, 09:27 PM
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#796
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Where's the condescending attack coming from?
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The University of Joe Rogan has the worst alumni
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12-18-2021, 09:37 PM
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#797
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Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
rooster took a lot of heat off you but this is a pretty terrible post too
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The old double burn, nice
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12-18-2021, 09:55 PM
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#798
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My face is a bum!
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It's great that for most people omicron won't be a big deal. But let's not forget that we just came off a period of canceling treatments and surgeries for adults and children. Hopefully it is more minor, but that doesn't look definitive yet. You can't risk being wrong when cases double every couple days.
Even if it is more minor, this Flames situation should set off the alarm bells. If 80% of people get this at the same time, including the non-peak-of-their-lives-super-athletes, it will be ugly.
If the Flames had the same testing protocol as us plebs, the cases would have been caught crossing the border or as close contacts and they'd be in legally required isolation anyway.
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12-18-2021, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Some actual data instead of unsupported opinions.
This report indicates that it's far more transmissable and, unfortunately, no less severe than other variants. It concedes data on hospitalization is still limited however.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8459837/o...everity-study/
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12-18-2021, 10:00 PM
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#800
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In the Sin Bin
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Every government in the world conspired to destroy their economies and make themselves look terrible to trick rooster into wearing a mask.
It's so obvious you sheep
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