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Old 12-14-2021, 04:09 PM   #1401
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Maybe look up about 6 posts, where the regulations are posted and conveniently highlighted for you.
No need. I've got the Race Director himself quoting the requirements of the regulations. Couple of posts above.

But just for you. Again.

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There’s a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past.
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a thing that is compulsory; a necessary condition.

So. This is not about Max doing anything wrong. Or Lewis. Or Red Bull. Or Mercedes.

This is about a race director failing to follow his own stated requirements of the regulations. Agreed?

Or are you suggesting he can state a requirement of the regulations and then go against his very own stated requirements?
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No need. I've got the Race Director himself quoting the requirements of the regulations. Couple of posts above.

But just for you. Again.



re·quire·ment
noun
a thing that is compulsory; a necessary condition.

So. This is not about Max doing anything wrong. Or Lewis. Or Red Bull. Or Mercedes.

This is about a race director failing to follow his own stated requirements of the regulations. Agreed?

Or are you suggesting he can state a requirement of the regulations and then go against his very own stated requirements?
Masi said he could do what he did.
The regulations show he can.
The stewards agreed.

Clearly Masi 2021 doesn't agree with Masi 2020. Neither do the regulations. Neither do the stewards.
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Old 12-14-2021, 04:46 PM   #1403
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Why are you guys even bothering with him? Just put him on ignore like I did and move on.
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Some shots from today's testing

https://twitter.com/user/status/1470627356687867910

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Old 12-14-2021, 05:09 PM   #1405
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I'm surprised by the amount of rake on the Ferrari. These cars are supposed to generate downforce under the car. Suction cup style.
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I'm surprised by the amount of rake on the Ferrari. These cars are supposed to generate downforce under the car. Suction cup style.
It's a mule car, not a 2022 car
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Old 12-14-2021, 06:21 PM   #1407
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Good video explaining the testing

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Old 12-14-2021, 07:25 PM   #1408
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It took me 12 hours to get thru to change seats and when I finally got thru they told me it’s basically sold out and nothing but singles available.

So uh yeah. Canadian GP is gonna be a bit of a hot ticket this year. Gone are the days of being happy to sell my tickets for cost.
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Old 12-15-2021, 10:50 AM   #1409
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Got 4 seats in grandstand 12 for next year, so pumped! We originally bought general admission but my buddy who has been going for years was able to grab 4 right by his so we are moving onto the stands!
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Old 12-15-2021, 03:35 PM   #1411
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Got 4 seats in grandstand 12 for next year, so pumped! We originally bought general admission but my buddy who has been going for years was able to grab 4 right by his so we are moving onto the stands!
GA in Montreal is no good anyways. Grandstand 12 is pretty damn good though. I sat there in 2016. Even better if you’re in sec 5-8.

We’re on the aisle in 11 but can’t quite see the entire start finish and can’t see the final chicane/wall of champions at all so we wanted to move over but those seats are hard to come by.
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My buddies and I grabbed seats in Grandstand 11, somewhere in sections 1-3, but we were supposed to have those seats in 2020, opted for the refund but there was an option for us to grab similar seats so we took it



Been to GPs in Singapore and Austin but never in Montreal, pretty pumped!
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Old 12-15-2021, 11:31 PM   #1413
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I heard they took away the BYOB option in Montreal. Is that true?
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Old 12-16-2021, 06:42 AM   #1414
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Mercedes not pursuing appeal. Wondering if they negotiated for the head of Masi. Certainly seems to be no love lost between the Wolffs and him.
I'm guessing part of that stems not so much from his actions but just as much as his condescending dismissive radio response to Toto's complaint on Sunday.

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Mercedes said that they protested against the results of the race "because the safety car regulations were applied in a new way that affected the race result, after Lewis had been in a commanding lead and on course to win the World Championship".

Masi made two key decisions that appear to be against the rules.

He chose to allow only some of the lapped cars that were interspersed through the order past the leading cars.
He also did not follow the stipulations in the rules around the timing of the restart of the race once the lapped cars had been allowed through.

These decisions meant that not all drivers in the field were treated equally - Verstappen had a clear run at Hamilton, for example, but there were still lapped cars between the Dutchman and third-placed Carlos Sainz's Ferrari - and they ensured the safety car came in a lap earlier than it should have done according to the rules.

The race was restarted for one lap and the Dutchman passed Briton Hamilton to win the race and take the drivers' title.

The FIA initially defended Masi's decisions. The stewards, in rejecting Mercedes' protests on Sunday, claimed the next clause in the rules allowed Masi to do what he did, and cited a rule that gave him authority over the safety car.

But the FIA's decision to launch a review of the events of the race is an effective admission that mistakes were made.

The FIA's statement did not mention Masi, whose actions in the race are at the centre of the controversy. His future as race director is in doubt.

Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff criticised Masi on Thursday for his decision-making.

"I am not interested in having a conversation with Masi," Wolff said.

"The decisions that have been taken in the last four minutes of this race have robbed Lewis of a deserved world championship.

"Entertainment should follow sport and no decision should happen contrary to the rules just to spice up the action.

An intervention from Susie Wolff

Mercedes' announcement came an hour or so after Susie Wolff, wife of the Mercedes F1 boss and boss of the Venturi Formula E team, criticised the FIA in a strongly worded statement of her own.

Susie Wolff said that the events in Abu Dhabi had left her "with a sick feeling".

She said Verstappen and Red Bull were "deserving winners and we always knew it was a strong possibility we may not win - but the way in which Lewis was robbed has left me in utter disbelief".

She added: "The decision of one person within the governing body who applied a rule in a way which has never been done before in F1 singlehandedly decided the F1 drivers' championship.

"Rules are rules; they can't be changed on a whim by one individual at the end of a race."

She concluded: "I hope by March next year there is a governing body with sporting integrity and fairness at its core so I can fall back in love with F1."
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I heard they took away the BYOB option in Montreal. Is that true?
IIRC, yes.
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This is pretty cool
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Mercedes not pursuing appeal. Wondering if they negotiated for the head of Masi. Certainly seems to be no love lost between the Wolffs and him.
I'm guessing part of that stems not so much from his actions but just as much as his condescending dismissive radio response to Toto's complaint on Sunday.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/59681314
I thought that radio message was brilliant. Toto got totally bitch slapped, and deserved it IMHO.
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Is it car reveal time yet??
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