12-16-2021, 10:03 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by Bill Bumface
3 points for a regulation win
2 points for an OT win
1 point for a SO win
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This, or straight win/loss or win/loss/tie. Any point system where you don't incentivize going into OT with more points up for grabs fixes a lot of problems.
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12-16-2021, 10:04 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nfotiu
This, or straight win/loss or win/loss/tie. Any point system where you don't incentivize going into OT with more points up for grabs fixes a lot of problems.
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The NHL will never do this as they need teams to be bunched up together as the season progresses.
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12-16-2021, 10:16 AM
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#23
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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I still believe in zero points for losing.
Regulation win 2 points
Overtime win 2 points
Shootout win 1 point
All losses 0 points
Shootout wins today are still tracked as a non ROW. Why not just make it 1 point, that way it doesn't reward a team to circle the ice and do figure 8s until the shootout because you're not really going to gain a bunch from it.
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12-16-2021, 10:24 AM
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#24
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Just bring back tie games. 4v4 was fun until coaches figured out how to defend it. 3v3 was fun until coaches figured out how to defend. Shoot-outs are stupid. It doesn't matter what changes are brought in, coaches and players will adapt and a few months later the same discussion will be had.
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12-16-2021, 10:33 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think the best thing would be to have to turn the puck over, maybe to behind the goal line. But that would require a completely new signal system from refs, since a whistle stops play.
I suppose a more drastic method would be to call intentional over and back a delay of game. I mean, they call over the glass delay of game even when in intentional, so it’s not that wild a notion.
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Just need a code word...yell "DUMP!"...if the offending team doesn't dump it within say 5 seconds they get a penalty. Linesmen already officiate through yells
An addition I'd consider...if your team does have to 'dump', then all of your players need to lap their own net (or maybe just own zone faceoff circle) before they can engage defensively
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12-16-2021, 10:55 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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How about head coach, two assistants and goalie coach vs the other teams?
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12-16-2021, 10:56 AM
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#27
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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Sudden death, no time limit. The fact that OT is shortened is an antiquated idea from when teams flew commercial. 3 on 3, 20 minute periods, quick flood, no full intermission, abolish the shoot-out.
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12-16-2021, 10:59 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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You may as well just go straight to shootout.
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12-16-2021, 11:16 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Let's make hockey not hockey. That will solve hockey!!!
So ####ing dumb.
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12-16-2021, 11:33 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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To me, this is a solution to something that isn't a problem. Could always just go straight to a shootout or bring back ties.
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12-16-2021, 11:38 AM
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#31
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Ties are awful. I think the only way to fix this is to change the points system where an OT win is worth more than a shoutout win.
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12-16-2021, 11:42 AM
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#32
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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playing a 4-on-4 10 overtime is the obvious answer. If tied after 10 minutes it's a tie. As a sport, your overtime method should not be so different that you're afraid to go to it (shootout).
Get rid of points, go to W-L-T like NFL.
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12-16-2021, 11:44 AM
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#33
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
The NHL will never do this as they need teams to be bunched up together as the season progresses.
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yup, artificial playoff races
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12-16-2021, 11:56 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
yup, artificial playoff races
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Which I get, but why not expand the playoff format if you want to keep teams in the hunt? Doing the NBA model for each division would be fun:
3v4 - winner = 3 seed, loser plays winner of 5v6 for final spot.
Rewards top 2 teams and keeps hope alive for all but the worst.
And it would eliminate the annoying gap between regular season end and playoff start.
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12-16-2021, 12:06 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Over-and-back rule. Teams shouldn't be allowed to clear the offensive zone to reset
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And make it a penalty shot if it's deemed ntentional
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12-16-2021, 12:10 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Nonothinman
What if OT was not sudden death? Play 5 mins regardless. This would mean a team would want to score first and then if they did the team that’s behind would have to open it up to try and tie it… if it’s still tied after the 5 mins… shootout.
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?? This would result in longer games and more shootouts
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12-16-2021, 12:10 PM
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#37
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Win - 3 points
OT win - 2 Points
OT loss - 1 point
Loss - 0 points
Just make OT - 5 minutes 4 on 4, followed by 5 minutes 3 on 3, and so on. At the end the 1 on 1 will replace the shootout and there will be lots of breakaways anyways.
Problem has always been the playoffs, need to change the wildcard format so you have a couple teams in each division playing best of 5 (or 3) to compete for the last playoff spot.
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12-16-2021, 12:11 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Whatever options I don't want more whistles. So somehow they would need to enforce over/back violations without whistling the play down.
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12-16-2021, 12:13 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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Opposing team gets to choose 2 forwards and 1 defenseman for the other team. These are the only players that can play in OT. Abolish the shootout and play until there's a winner.
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12-16-2021, 12:20 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Whatever options I don't want more whistles. So somehow they would need to enforce over/back violations without whistling the play down.
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I don't think this would work. Over and back, ref blows whistle but play continues, you have to shoot the puck into the other team's end? No thanks.
I think it just needs to be a penalty for delay of game... it's simple, straightforward, and a 4 on 3 in OT is usually a goal anyway.
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