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Old 12-13-2021, 06:17 PM   #381
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I don't leave Google reviews because of the real name issue ...
Seriously? You don’t know you can create multiple Google accounts? My dog has one. He only reviews off leash parks and pet food stores.
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Seriously, you think anyone doesn’t already know that?

Some of us just have better things to do with our lives than pretend to be our dog online and review parks.
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Ya, I'm not so interested in reviewing things to bother with a separate account.
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Ya, I'm not so interested in reviewing things to bother with a separate account.

You don’t have a burner gmail account for stuff like contests?
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No, tend not to enter stuff.
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Old 12-13-2021, 06:51 PM   #386
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Yeah, I've never been, but have to make the trip. Their weird stuff shows up on so many things I look for on Kijiji. Seems like such a crazy store.

I use a negative review as an absolute last resort when I feel I have been unreasonably treated, which resulted in a financial loss, after trying all other avenues.

I’ve done it twice before, simply to gain leverage after them refusing to hold up their end of the bargain, and once resolved - I remove the review.

The method has worked in both cases, and believe the ability to have access to the review system protected me as a customer from being taken advantage of by poor service. In both cases, it was the best way to escalate to the owner - whom
Was spun a different, inaccurate story from his worker covering their own ass - and immediately worked to understand both sides and resolve to the contractual terms.

I don’t use the review system for petty stuff like day to day poor service from front line workers , as I think that could happen anywhere and doesn’t affect my perception of the company.

I do think in this case of this thread, after reading all of the reviews, it seems very consistent negative feedback on upper mgmt that is taking advantage of people. I think This is how I would use the review system, and if they refuse to hold up to contractual terms, then they deserve the bad reviews and should be shamed for it to protect other customers.


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Old 12-13-2021, 07:09 PM   #387
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Who made Google the judge and executioner but even scarier, why do people support them and call them fair.

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I'm not calling Google fair and never have. But you keep misrepresenting anyone who opposes you as Google lovers. I hate them. And I still disagree with you on a bunch of points. Are you saying you NEVER use Google products, and if so for how long?

The people of the world made Google the judge and executioner sir, you and I included. Please tell me what could be more democratic than the fact that basically anyone who has performed a web search in the last 20 years has a free choice on which search engine to use. Google didn’t start as an evil giant, it took quite a while to get there. Google started as a Stanford college student project, they developed their algorithm for years and thousands of hours before you ever heard of it. They came up with a revolutionary algorithm that was 10 years ahead of the competition and brought it to the world at large without a large amount of cash. They not only outcompeted existing web giants like Microsoft and AOL, they blew right past them. That’s how they eventually became big enough to start to be evil giants and monopolize. Because their search results are still far better than their competition. They still have over 90% of the market share right now.

A lot of people know how evil they are, but still use them because they have good products. That's a big part of what you seem to be missing. People keep using them despite their flaws because they make good stuff.

I completely respect anyone who has been a long-time small business owner and I’m not trying to downplay any of that. I just think you have terrible takes on the technology side. Really it's so much more complicated than you're posting like here and you certainly have some big misunderstandings about how Google works.

What other companies are you actively campaigning against right now? Because there's a good chance your phone, computer, operating system, contents of your closet and contents of your fridge and pantry are loaded with evil companies too. You just seem hyper-focused on this one evil company, and you seem to think that everyone else should be as concerned as you.


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So what you’re saying if that even though a company is evil and does bad things we should still shop there if the product is good.
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So what you’re saying if that even though a company is evil and does bad things we should still shop there if the product is good.
All hail capitalism!
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So what you’re saying if that even though a company is evil and does bad things we should still shop there if the product is good.
Nope, not at all. Just that a lot of people obviously do have a tendency to do so.
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Wait, how old are you? Reviews are new as of 10 years ago. Not once prior to reviews did I - or anybody I know - struggle to find somewhere to go or something to do.
There have always been reviews:

Guidebooks for travel
Zagats for restaurants
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Message boards and blogs have been around with reviews since at least 96.

In what ways do you think are reasonable in which a customer to seek advice on where to purchase something?

So if I say ask on Calgary puck for a roofer and someone tells me about there 1 star experience do you object to that? It creates a permanent searchable 1 star review of a company and will likely make me not use that business.
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Old 12-14-2021, 09:06 AM   #392
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There have always been reviews:

Guidebooks for travel
Zagats for restaurants
BBB
Consumer reports
Message boards and blogs have been around with reviews since at least 96.

In what ways do you think are reasonable in which a customer to seek advice on where to purchase something?

So if I say ask on Calgary puck for a roofer and someone tells me about there 1 star experience do you object to that? It creates a permanent searchable 1 star review of a company and will likely make me not use that business.
Hey, I get it. People are not interested in hearing about the complaints of business owners on this topic. CP has made that abundantly clear.

If you can't see the difference between a guidebook that is professionally curated with a view to objectivity versus malicious and ignorant reviews, nothing I say will convince you.

If you can't see the difference between a book maybe only a couple of thousand of people would ever see - and see just one time as they read - compared to an amateur and subjective review permanently visible every single time a business is searched using the largest search engine humanity has ever known then, again, what can I say?

If you can't see the difference between polling acquaintances for specific information in a way that sort of expires and fizzles into the ether after the information is exchanged versus a permanent branding on the virtual storefront of shop with a potential audience of millions...is there anything I could say that would lead you to empathize with my position?

If you won't acknowledge that guidebooks and professional reviews are updated to stay current with the contemporary experience a customer can expect versus years-old reviews that a business can't shed no matter how irrelevant they are compared to when they were written, it seems as though I'm wasting my breath trying to explain it to you.

I am optimistic the tides will turn at some point. I mean, I was reading the reviews on 'Play it Again Sports' last night because I had to Google the address to drop some stuff off. Here are some highlights of the reviews this poor business is facing (these are all one star, by the way):

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Once again they don’t have room to take anything and there was nothing in the size we wanted. Maybe staff just couldn’t care less.
I mean, they sell used stuff. If they don't have your size, it's because the stock just doesn't exist. That's the nature of shopping at a used store. Why is it their fault and why do they deserve a one-star review? That review has been dragging them down for three years. Fighting the good fight, Darin Dunlop!
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Shae was very rude and dictator-like with poor customer service. It's a shame because I've purchased lots from Play It Again over the years. I explained I am medically exempt and when he said I have to leave or put a mask on
You're offended and one-starred them because they wouldn't accommodate your made-up medical exemption in the middle of a pandemic? GFY. And named a specific employee? I hate that so much. Jordan Denis - the reviewer - was a total jerk for doing that and for leaving that up for A YEAR so far.
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Was really disappointed with the amount of credit they were offering for my brand new skates. I had only wore them 3 times and they retail at $200. They offered me $28. They also didn't have a variety of sizes of the items I was looking for. Trying to be more conscious and shop second hand but my experience made it very difficult to do so.
Yes, they tell you up front. We'll give you 30% of what we can sell them for. You will get more money selling privately. How could somebody not understand they have so much overhead to pay for, they're taking the risk of holding your inventory - which may or may not sell - and your item is in used condition. What does $200 have to do with it? Nope, I don't care about all that. One star.
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Went in to buy a pair of used skates for my girlfriend. We found a pair that fit her. I saw the price and thought the price was wrong. The skates were very well used, there wasn't much for a blade, the hardware was all rusted. Overall the skate was in poor condition and wasn't even a well recognized brand.

I asked the counter if by chance they could give me a better price on the skate or possibly they labeled it wrong. The young guy at the counter laughed and said no. Also said that it was a supply and demand thing. ( I laughed about that as the kid telling me this probably doesn't know the concept of supply and demand).

Anyway I drove to Canadian tire and bought her a brand new pair for 39.99. I won't be coming back for any of my sporting needs.

I'm sure it's a great store but my experience wasn't the best.
lol, this one the owner actually replied to. The skates this guy was trying to buy were really high quality albeit well worn. Instead, he went and bought some cheap POS skates. But nah, the low rating remains.
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I agree with Migs, absolute rubbish place, was going to buy my 2 kids skates. What a rip off. Cross the street to sport chek. Good prices, great choices, comes with warranty and friendly service. People who don't know any better do business at play it again and will get taken to the cleaners.
Nobody. Nobody is taking you to the cleaners at fataing Play it Again Sports. How could you not expect to get less than you could get on Kijiji and pay a little more than you'd pay on Kijiji. Are these people brain dead? How are they allowed to review a business when they don't even understand the model? Very typical of reviewers. It's ignorance.
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Every time we have attempted to trade in sports equipment we have been told they won't take it. Regardless of the time of year! Too frustrated to deal with them anymore.
Maybe you're not taking your stuff in at the right time of year or maybe it's not of a quality they can sell. I think they know their business better than you. But nope, this dope leaves one star. Four years ago. And this poor company is still saddled with this idiot's review.


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Staff were ready to help. They sized my little girl's foot, then checked for used skates in her size before offering new ones. Free sharpening done while we waited so it was truly a one-stop shop. A great experience and a location I highly recommend!
Except that prick left four stars for that glowing review.

And then some three-star reviews:
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Very limited selection on bicycles and extremely over priced for used equipment.
Like, no recognition that A. they're not a bike store. B. bikes during Covid have been hard to find. C. they're at the mercy of the stock people bring in to consign/sell. They got a bad review because somebody didn't understand the store or the business model. I can't imagine the frustration for the owners of this place.

So why am I optimistic? Well, I don't think change is going to come fast enough for my liking, but I think conversations like this will help people understand these platforms are just meant to benefit the tech companies, they cost businesses, and reviewers have just become to picky and too mean. I think this will eventually lead to reviewing people somehow, and when they do it will suddenly activate all your empathy chips, which are apparently malfunctioning right now.

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There have always been reviews:

Guidebooks for travel
Zagats for restaurants
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Message boards and blogs have been around with reviews since at least 96.

In what ways do you think are reasonable in which a customer to seek advice on where to purchase something?

So if I say ask on Calgary puck for a roofer and someone tells me about there 1 star experience do you object to that? It creates a permanent searchable 1 star review of a company and will likely make me not use that business.
And for the short answer, every way that doesn't permanently plaster a virtual billboard over my company with no opportunity for mediation.
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I would say the majority of businesses outside of food and lodging don't even need a rating system. Who the fata consults google reviews to go buy a record or caster's for work dolly or helmet for a motorcycle? They are pretty much pointless to 90% of businesses out there. Go in buy your crap and get out.
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I was looking for some pizza and came across a review that reminded me of this thread. Like what kind of person consistently keeps trying to order a pizza always right before closing?

https://g.co/kgs/uaXKwv

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I have eaten here many times over the years and it has always been average to good. During Covid I know restaurants have been hurting so I have tried to support my local favourites as much as I can. 3 times in the last 3 months I have tried to order food for pickup. There website says they take their last order 1/2 hour before closing time. The first time I called at 10:30 when they closed at 11 (at the time I was unaware of their 1/2 hour rule). They refused to take my order. Next time I called at 10:15 and they told me they already took last order and refused to take my order. Then tonight I called at 11:15 when they close at 12 and was told they already took last order and they refused my order. So three times I have tried to support this restaurant and three times they have turned away my business. So not only will I no longer try to support them as they obviously don’t need or want it, but I will also no longer be ordering from them in the future. There are countless other places that are way more appreciative of my business
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Ooooooo I love a good “my business is the best business and you’re dumb for not accommodating me personally” take.
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The line at the end gets me: not only will they not support them anymore, BUT they won’t order from them again. Oh okay.

I wish you could reply to reviews on there.
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Matadors is awesome. Won’t impact them one bit.
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Matadors is awesome. Won’t impact them one bit.

Yeah, I was looking at either matadors or varsity. Weird that crazy review showed on first. Maybe not weird, I am sure the algorithm is intended to do that.
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I was looking for some pizza and came across a review that reminded me of this thread. Like what kind of person consistently keeps trying to order a pizza always right before closing?

https://g.co/kgs/uaXKwv
Maybe they should get out of bed before 10pm.
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