Jujhar Khaira carried off the ice on stretcher

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

People think this is the law. But it's not 100% correct. You can get joint liability out of it sometimes. And your merge example is also not exactly correct. In fact, that one is likely 100% merger's liability as long as you did nothing wrong.

But back on the rear-ender example - the reason the driver from behind is usually at fault is that you are supposed to be far enough back that you can stop in time no matter what happens in front of you. So to equate that to hockey, maybe you should be hitting in a manner that accounts for your opponent doing something like turning away.

If I'm not mistaken is it not 50/50 responsibility in merge situations. Obviously in a crash fault can be assessed fully to one party or the other depending but I would have sworn all those years ago in driving school that you had as much onus to be aware of merging vehicles to let them in as they did to be aware of the lane they were entering.

Either way that's how I view hockey hits. Both players have to take responsibility for themselves and the position they put themselves in. A player clearly comes in and head hunts a guy, suspend them send a message. A player with the puck skating with his head down and gets blown up however? What did you expect? If the principal point of contact wasn't the head them the hitter has done nothing wrong. You're in the big leagues as much as the hitter needs to be aware of his point of contact you need to be aware of your own situation you're putting yourself in.

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm hard pressed to think of the high intensity playoff games where someone did something similar, outside of Scheifele last year, which was also dirty. Players are more focused on playing the game instead of blowing up their opponents.

I'm not advocating for players to get blown up regularly. I don't think anyone is celebrating the result of the hit on Khaira. I just don't think that there's something wrong with the league. Once or twice a year a guys going to get his bell rung like this. I don't think a big rule change is going to fix it other then ruin the entertainment value of the game. Guys lose an edge and injure themselves incidentally about as often as a guy lays out a big hit that concusses someone. Even if you removed hitting altogether incidental contact would still cause some injuries. It's not a rare occurrence to see two guys on the same team even blow each other up cause they don't see each other. Such is the risks of the game when it's played at such a high speed.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

I'm not advocating for players to get blown up regularly. I don't think anyone is celebrating the result of the hit on Khaira. I just don't think that there's something wrong with the league. Once or twice a year a guys going to get his bell rung like this. I don't think a big rule change is going to fix it other then ruin the entertainment value of the game. Guys lose an edge and injure themselves incidentally about as often as a guy lays out a big hit that concusses someone. Even if you removed hitting altogether incidental contact would still cause some injuries. It's not a rare occurrence to see two guys on the same team even blow each other up cause they don't see each other. Such is the risks of the game when it's played at such a high speed.

There's a lot more than that. It's already happened twice by the same player. and the fact it is as infrequent as it is seems to me to suggest it actually is an unnecessary play. It's not the frequency - it's the result that concerns people. Careers are on the line.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

You would like to what amounts to the all-star game level of intensity 82 games a year. Is that better?

The all-star game is how it is because there’s nothing at stake, not because there’s no hitting.

And how did Trouba’s hit add to any intensity? Play stopped, Chicago came back distracted, it didn’t somehow take on a playoff atmosphere.

I like hitting in the game but these half baked comparisons to different sports or meaningless games are just pointless. Nobody has an actual reason for wanting big hits other than their cave person instincts for violence. It’s basically just “I am excited by it and I like it!” which is fine. The actual reason for not wanting them is much more relevant and serious, though.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Between this and the other quoted post from the Arizona thread, I have one question for you...


Just how old ARE you?

I admit to 122.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not a problem. Since you are looking down all the time you won't be able to see your linemates to dish the puck, nor assess the ice ahead of you so defenders will easily be able to come out of your sightlines and take the puck off your stick.

Having your head down is not the same as looking down. But hey, nice try.

[dino7c]

There are certain risks that come with making millions of dollars to play a kids game. Without hitting NHL popularity and entertainment value goes down big time.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm hard pressed to think of the high intensity playoff games where someone did something similar, outside of Scheifele last year, which was also dirty. Players are more focused on playing the game instead of blowing up their opponents.

You missed the best series of the playoffs I guess...Panthers/Lightning was a freaking war

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You missed the best series of the playoffs I guess...Panthers/Lightning was a freaking war

How many guys concussed from predatory hits? There was a lot of dirty play in Game 4 though - Duclair slashing Kucherov, Sergachev boarded. Cooper said the officials let the game get out of hand. But that game turned dirty when it wasn't close.

And I say TB-NYI was better.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You missed the best series of the playoffs I guess...Panthers/Lightning was a freaking war

Battling and playing hard isn’t what people are complaining about.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Battling and playing hard isn’t what people are complaining about.

there were a ton of heavy heavy hits...some walking that line. They were certainly hitting to hurt

I personally don't even think this hit is bad, just the result was...it happens. He lined a guy up and tried to hit him square, had the puck, no jump ect.