Suicide Pods Legal in Switzerland

[undercoverbrother]

https://globalnews.ca/news/8431294/s..._7iPe7KlhtgzfM

Switzerland is giving the green light to so-called “suicide capsules” — 3-D printed pods that allow people to choose the place where they want to die an assisted death.

The country’s medical review board announced the legalization of the Sarco Suicide Pods this week. They can be operated by the user from the inside.

[Ozy_Flame]

30 seconds of nitrogen gas. Sleep, then coma, then done.

This is excellent news IMO. Humans and society need a much healthier relationship with death.

[surferguy]

[calgarygeologist]

Interesting concept.

I expected to see something like the suicide booths on Futurama though.

[Dion]

The Pods look similar to the hyper sleeping pods in the Alien movie.

[GGG]

One challenge with this is it makes suicide much easier. One of the factors in suicide rate between countries is access to effective measures to kill ones self. It’s interesting they are trying to add AI to ensure mental fitness to make the decision.

[Dion]

I support assisted dying – but am appalled by Switzerland’s suicide machine

The choice of assisted dying is not simply about avoiding unrelievable pain or other distressing symptoms that even the most expert and compassionate palliative care cannot control, though these are important factors I would bear in mind if I was in such a position. It is about being able to celebrate our life, to gather the people who mean the most to us, to reminisce and say goodbye, safe in the knowledge that we can leave this world at a time, in a place and by the manner of our choosing.

The “Sarco” would instead deprive users of human connection and replace it with a lonely, virtual reality experience. It disconnects people from everything that makes life worth living and gives death meaning. To me, that is the antithesis of what the choice of assisted dying represents.

Safety should always be at the forefront of any efforts to enable greater choice at the end of life, and there are serious safety concerns here. What if it is accessed by someone not in their right mind? Or a child? Or if it is used to abuse others? What if it doesn’t result in immediate or peaceful death and the individual is left alone without any recourse to call for help? I could go on and on.

Reforming our broken assisted dying laws means making them safer and more compassionate. The Sarco does no such thing. Time for a safeguarded assisted dying law that provides valuable choice to those who want it and robust protection to the whole of society.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b1971534.html

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Dion

I support assisted dying – but am appalled by Switzerland’s suicide machine

I would argue that those who seek out this service are already feeling deprived of human connection, lonely, and/or disconnected from people and already feel like life is not worth living..... It can't deprive them of something they already don't have.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

I would argue that those who seek out this service are already feeling deprived of human connection, lonely, and/or disconnected from people and already feel like life is not worth living..... It can't deprive them of something they already don't have.

and as cold as it sounds, this is a more fiscally responsible solution than mass institutionalization.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Came in to see this, not disappointed! Only that it wasn't the second post

[Dion]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

I would argue that those who seek out this service are already feeling deprived of human connection, lonely, and/or disconnected from people and already feel like life is not worth living..... It can't deprive them of something they already don't have.

Many of them probably are and I would agree. I just think a person should have the option of having someone there in their last moments.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

30 seconds of nitrogen gas. Sleep, then coma, then done.

This is excellent news IMO. Humans and society need a much healthier relationship with death.

Question for you then. If you saw someone trying to kill themselves, would you try to intervene?

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Dion

I support assisted dying – but am appalled by Switzerland’s suicide machine

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b1971534.html

All I read from this ridiculous opinion is "me, me, me, me, me". It's all about how he thinks it takes away from life the things he himself values.

It says nothing about the values and desires of the person who is actually living that life and is seeking out this service because they may be in agony and prefer the bliss of the virtual experience.

What an awful piece.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Oddly it looks more like the Stasis Pods.



One would think the styling would be a much lower priority considering the purpose.

[Cube Inmate]

GMG to focus at all on the pod being "3d printed." The implication when they mention that is that you could print one for yourself at home .... which is obviously not happening.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Question for you then. If you saw someone trying to kill themselves, would you try to intervene?

I am more of an upstream person than a last minute save them type. I try and treat people with kindness and tell folks that I like and matter to me that I like them and that they matter to me. People who I know are suffering I try and give them the support I can, and or suggest better support options.

That said, If I saw a stranger 'jump' so to speak, I wouldn't stop them. I don't know what kind of crazy messed up situation I am keeping them in.

Don't get me wrong, it would be an awful feeling, something I hope that I would never have to experience.

But the bottom line is the planet is over populated, and self destructive people are filling institutions and casuing public harm. Should we invest in ways to make suicide a less desirable option. Absoluetly, but should we force people to keep living even if they don't want to?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Dion

Many of them probably are and I would agree. I just think a person should have the option of having someone there in their last moments.

Just get your loved ones to tap on the glass.

[MoneyGuy]

So a girl who’s broken up with her boyfriend or a man who’s lost his job can do this? The potential for abuse scares me.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Question for you then. If you saw someone trying to kill themselves, would you try to intervene?

I think the general consensus is that many suicides are impulsive decisions that are made in a "heat of the moment" kind of way. That is why a Suicide hotline is an effective tool in preventing suicides.

I know a few people that have tried to commit suicide. Some have succeeded, others not. The ones who failed, have not tried again.

I think that is different than medically assisted dying.

I know you didn't ask me, but i would agree that i support medically-assisted suicide and we as a society need a much healthier view of death and dying while also saying that if i saw someone trying to commit suicide, i would try to stop them.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

So a girl who’s broken up with her boyfriend or a man who’s lost his job can do this? The potential for abuse scares me.

I think that is a slippery slope argument. I don't think we would ever see assisted suicide implemented in such a casual fashion