[News] UPD: Sharks terminate Evander Kane's contract

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If you're referring to my comment, I was joking, suggesting that the players wouldn't want Kane on their team and they'd play better with the threat of him being added hanging above their heads.

Yeah I got the joke, pretty funny.

But then attacked it from a realistic perspective (you can never underestimate what Benning will do), and found it equally funny.

[PegCityFlamesFan]

I love how people assume Sutter is going to fix Kanes issues. Dudes got way more issues than being able to play hockey (he's actually decent at that). Dudes an absolute scum bag piece of garbage.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

August, 2013 - Lev Makievsky alleges that Kane assaulted him causing a concussion and physical disability. Kane would say that Makievsky instigated the fight.

December, 2015 - Rachel Kuechle alleges that Kane violently assaulted her after inviting her back to his place under false pretext of a party. She alleges the assault, also sexual in nature, caused her several lacerations requiring multiple surgeries and blood transfusions.

June, 2016 - Three separate woman all claim that Kane physically assaulted them in a bar. One said he had grabbed her neck and told her she was going with him now. Another said he grabbed her by the neck in the parking lot, made derogatory comments to her and tried to push her into his car. A third said she was grabbed by the arm and pulled by Kane. A bouncer, who Kane also engaged in physically, would support the claims. Kane would accept a plea deal that would have the charges dismissed if he stayed out of legal trouble for six months.

March, 2019 - Anna Kane, shortly after complications with the birth of their child, alleges that Kane forced her to perform oral sex on him by grabbing her hair. A couple days later, and still not healed, Kane allegedly raped her according to the divorce documents.

That's seven people who have claimed Kane has assaulted them.

Thanks for this, I was going to go back and list all his crap in the past since some on here are acting like there is really nothing wrong with Evander. Hes a great guy. What a joke. Thanks for doing the work.

[dissentowner]

The Flames take too much pride in their image, they are not going to look at Kane.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Matty81

At 3.5 mil per? Though I know it won't happen I'd be fine with it too as I think Sutter is strong enough to handle it, but I know many would be opposed on moral grounds. Plug him into the lineup for Pitlick and the Flames are vastly improved up front and what I care about is seeing the flames win another cup in my life not winning sportsmanship and values kudos. But the issue for me is the Gaudreau and Tkachuk contracts not being settled and how adding Kane would affect that. If either of those guys can't be locked down and walk for free it would be a colossal loss for the organization and throw the team into a retooling phase.

Either way I hope he goes somewhere with a couple games against the Sharks left. I really dislike Kane and his conduct off ice, but I have no time for Logan Couture throwing him under the bus this fall and I'm looking forward to seeing him wet his pants when Kane comes after him. 99% chance he cowers behind the ref and mouths off

I care about winning a cup too but what Kane allegedly has done goes far beyond sportsmanship. Everyone’s line is different but if the Flames added him I would have to question If I continue to support this franchise

[monkeyman]

Kane is not helping you win a cup, if anything having him on your team makes that less likely.

[Tron_fdc]

I'd rather take every nickel we would "maybe" throw at Kane, double it, and throw it at a retired, out of shape Byfuglien and play him on the wing.

Hell, I'd rather bring Iginla out of retirement than bring in one of the biggest dooshes in the league.

I don't want Kane anywhere near our young players.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Phone calls? Is he going to use the money phone?

Going bankrupt is one thing, but it must suck to have so much photo evidence of yourself lighting all that money on fire.

[zamler]

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I care about winning a cup too but what Kane allegedly has done goes far beyond sportsmanship. Everyone’s line is different but if the Flames added him I would have to question If I continue to support this franchise

I totally respect that, personal line for everyone. I think that his outlook will be determined by his own attitude. If he's willing to change past behavior there are lots of supports to help, personally think he deserves a chance and I'd be fine if that is with the Flames personally. Have seen people with way worse pasts reform with help from agencies like John Howard. If he's not contrite and he does the same act, he'll stay in the AHL, be bought out and end up in some second rate Russian league team out in Novosibirsk or something next year IMO.

I do have a little bit of an issue with the like of Logan Couture and some of the other Sharks attitude towards Kane this fall, I think it is more about him being different from the traditional hockey culture norms than his actual transgressions. Dunno how many guys I've seen over the years do terrible indefensible things and have their team close ranks around them or at least say they hope they get support. I wouldn't even know where to start there have been so many and I know people will immediately say it's different because ______. Probert, Gilmour, Ciccarelli, McTavish and many many others come to mind.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Daryl Sutter is not a Social Worker.

Remember that Theo guy? How'd that work out?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Daryl Sutter is not a Social Worker.

Remember that Theo guy? How'd that work out?

Sutter coached Theo?

[Itse]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Anyone holding E. Kane to a higher moral standing than the rest of the hockey world for being a gambling addict and forging a vaccine card is out to lunch. Lets look at some of the other notorious problem children of the NHL:

• Jagr had the same gambling issues as E. Kane and was also a notorious womanizer.
• Patrick Kane has had multiple issues related to physical and sexual assault.
• Tony Deanglo is a very vocal right-wing nut job.
• Jeff Carter and Mike Richards had severe partying issues that got both of them kicked out of Philly.
• Tyler Seguin was kicked out of Boston for his partying issues.

All of these players, except for Deangelo, have cup rings and long careers, and there many more "problem children" that could be listed here.

Scorned (and crazy) ex-wife and occasional questionable life choices aside, E. Kane is exactly the type of player on the ice that the Flames need to fill the last Top 6 winger spot. Treliving should be working the phones damn hard to score him on a good deal with salary retained. Getting a hard-nosed 30-goal sniper for $4-5M for the next three years would be a great deal.


Plus, when was the last time that Sutter let a "problem child" wreck his team?

Okay I get your point, but that comparison isn't really fair.

I mean, who cares if Jagr likes to sleep around, so what? It's his life and I can't remember him ever being accused of being abusive. Gambling is also a private issue as long as you don't bet on your own game. This is not the same as being accused of being abusive and betting on your own games.

No one ever suggested that Seguin, Richards or Carter partied so hard it threatened their careers. Also these guys were in their twenties, Kane is 30.

As for Patrick Kane, I don't think there's been any new controversies in like a decade now? And the only public accusation of sexual assault against him was a proven hoax. He did admit to punching a taxi driver when he was 21. While not okay, generally people don't think that's the same as being abusive towards multiple partners over multiple years.

Is Evander going to get another chance? I would say probably yes, but I do think he also might end up being the exception. First of all, he's expensive, not many teams can afford him, and many GM's will shy away from the risk at that price tag.

Second, and this is something which I think is somewhat unique about Kane: it's not just that he can't stay out of trouble, he also can't keep things quiet. Teams can look the other way only as long as things don't get public.

Third, he doesn't seem to have friends in the hockey world, not even party friends. It's not a deal breaker on it's own, but it does decrease his odds.

Lastly, none of those guys were accused of betting on their own games. That raises questions about possible match fixing, and that's a big one. Any GM's that think those accusations might have some truth in them will stay the hell away from Evander.

[CSharp]

That's one waiver you do not want to pick up

[Flames_Gimp]

nobody thinks the Flames should take a chance on him I assume?

[Flames_Gimp]

Could he bring more to the table than somebody like, Monohands?

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Sutter coached Theo?

Who was coaching during the comeback attempt when Fleury lit it up in preseason and was snubbed? I can't remember. He would have been a lot more useful than the Jagr experiment imo

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Could he bring more to the table than somebody like, Monohands?

He would be motivated to regain some shred of dignity.

A lot to play for. He needs that 21 million. He will put up offense for the team that takes him.

But you'd almost want to give him a separate dressing room away from the rest of the guys to limit exposure to all off ice antics. Because you KNOW someone will say something and this guy probably has a short fuse.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Who was coaching during the comeback attempt when Fleury lit it up in preseason and was snubbed? I can't remember. He would have been a lot more useful than the Jagr experiment imo

It would have been Brent Sutter coaching that year with Darryl managing.

[burn_this_city]

Lets inject cancer into our team and see how quickly it metastasizes. Guy seems like a psychopath parading as a talented hockey player. I don't care if he's the best player in the league, too much anti-social borderline psychopathic behavior. Anyone rolling the dice on Evander Kane is going to get burnt. He didn't learn the first half dozen times.