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View Poll Results: Who's first? Ovechkin to score his 800th goal or any other player to score 600?
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Alexander Ovechkin — 34 yrs, 159 days
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213 |
83.53% |
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Patrick Marleau — 40 yrs, 161 days
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4 |
1.57% |
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Sidney Crosby — 32 yrs, 200 days
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10 |
3.92% |
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Steven Stamkos — 30 yrs, 15 days
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1 |
0.39% |
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John Tavares — 29 yrs, 156 days
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1 |
0.39% |
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Nikita Kusherov — 26 yrs, 251 days
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0.39% |
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David Pasternak — 23 yrs, 335 days
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1 |
0.39% |
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Connor McDavid — 23 yrs, 41 days
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13 |
5.10% |
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Leon Draisaitl — 24 yrs, 119 days
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2 |
0.78% |
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Auston Matthews — 22 yrs, 159 days
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9 |
3.53% |
11-12-2021, 09:28 PM
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#161
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Locke
He very realistically could.
He has to score 24 more goals in 68 games?
You'd have to bet on him.
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100%
I think he has, like, 35-40 in 68 in him.
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11-12-2021, 09:32 PM
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#162
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
100%
I think he has, like, 35-40 in 68 in him.
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Unless theres an injury or a lull after the Olympics I think its thoroughly plausible.
Hell...at the clip he's going?
I dont care about Gretzky or whatever records he set in the 80s...what Ovechkin is doing is akin to a minor miracle.
With defenders and goalies these days as opposed to the 80s and Ovi is cutting through them like a hot knife through butter.
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11-12-2021, 10:23 PM
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It's crazy to think even just a couple years ago that anyone would beat Gretzky's record but here we are. Ovechkin for sure is a special player to score that many goals.
He hasn't done it yet but it's looking more likely for sure.
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11-22-2021, 03:15 PM
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#164
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He's at 745 now.
He has 30 points and McDavid has 32, yet nary a word from Snet staff about him. It's nothing but McLottery at every intermission, break, panel, and even during PBP. Sickening.
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11-23-2021, 04:16 AM
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#165
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Ovechkin +13, McDavid +4. Okey.
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11-23-2021, 12:10 PM
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#166
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Ovi = 11 EVG; 11 EVA; 22 EVP
Mavi = 8+8=16evp
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11-23-2021, 12:17 PM
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#167
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Let’s not turn this into a McDavid thread.
What Ovechkin is doing is so historic. He is still at a 65 goal pace.
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11-23-2021, 02:21 PM
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#168
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
Let’s not turn this into a McDavid thread.
What Ovechkin is doing is so historic. He is still at a 65 goal pace.
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Blame Snet. We are fans of Ovi in this thread.
They are the ones who won’t shut the hell up about McLottery while Ovi is creating history as we speak.
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11-23-2021, 02:24 PM
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#169
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Its pretty great that Ovechkin will likely break an NHL scoring record...McDavid won't be setting any records
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11-23-2021, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Its pretty great that Ovechkin will likely break an NHL scoring record...McDavid won't be setting any records
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He might set the most penalties drawn record.
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11-23-2021, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Who is talking about Ovechkin catching Gretzky? I agree that would be a near impossibility, but he is still a really good bet to become the third 800-goal-scorer in history, and will probably finish his career #2.
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If OV hadn't had to endure 2 lockouts and a covid shutdown during his prime scoring years, he would have certainly caught Gretzky. Even so, I still won't say it's unlikely that he won't do it even at this point.
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11-23-2021, 03:08 PM
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#172
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
If OV hadn't had to endure 2 lockouts and a covid shutdown during his prime scoring years, he would have certainly caught Gretzky. Even so, I still won't say it's unlikely that he won't do it even at this point.
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And Howe was in the WHA for an entire decade, or he would have the record.
Etc.
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11-23-2021, 03:37 PM
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#173
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
And Howe was in the WHA for an entire decade, or he would have the record.
Etc.
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Now I'm confused. Are we talking about Howe or Ovechkin here?
I have no interest in talking Howe at all, but it's completely irrelevant to me how many more goals he might have scored had he not chosen to play in a different league altogether. Ovechkin quite literally had 130 games taken away from him (based on his career averages he'd be sitting at roughly 825 goals right now).
It's not at all the same.
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11-23-2021, 04:10 PM
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#174
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Howe chose to play in the WHA.
Ovi missing time was out of his control entirely.
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11-23-2021, 04:22 PM
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#175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Howe chose to play in the WHA.
Ovi missing time was out of his control entirely.
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Valid.
But the point remains, you can't just add an 'if' for one player.
Longevity isn't easy, which is why it has value.
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11-23-2021, 04:28 PM
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#176
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Valid.
But the point remains, you can't just add an 'if' for one player.
Longevity isn't easy, which is why it has value.
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Yeah, you could say the same stuff about Mario's illness, Jagr being out of the NHL, Fleury's demons, Bossy's injuries.
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11-23-2021, 04:31 PM
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#177
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exactly
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11-23-2021, 04:37 PM
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Yeah, you could say the same stuff about Mario's illness, Jagr being out of the NHL, Fleury's demons, Bossy's injuries.
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Jagr and Brodeur also had 3 lockouts. Gretzky put up another 46 goals in the WHA. None of it is worth thinking about in terms of what if’s.
Ovechkin will get there when he gets there under the circumstances he played under.
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11-23-2021, 08:46 PM
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#179
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Jagr and Brodeur also had 3 lockouts. Gretzky put up another 46 goals in the WHA. None of it is worth thinking about in terms of what if’s.
Ovechkin will get there when he gets there under the circumstances he played under.
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I think the argument is that in this day and age where goalies and defensemen are actually athletic, goals are way harder to come by than the old days. Couple that with the lockouts and COVID Ovi faced and the feat is simply stunning.
So if you take away COVID and the lockouts, Ovi’s goal scoring total is dizzying.
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11-24-2021, 01:28 AM
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#180
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Ovi will come very close and perhaps break the record, that we know of. The Great One was just simply a substantially more efficient shooter and did it in an era where goal scoring was high but certain conditions and elements of the era could have made it a little harder.
Everything in 2021 is geared towards allowing more scoring and players like Ovi have benefited from it, no doubt. He is a special player with a special shot. I still stand by my thoughts that #99 was probably the most dominating athlete in major NA sports from a pure performance and statistical perspective. When you compare the #1, 2, 3 spots in points, you have such a massive gap in some ways it's in sane. Gretzky literally has nearly 50% more points than Jagr, who played nearly 10 years longer in the league.
When you compare TD passes thrown, NBA players points, homerun's in MLB or whatever else, you don't see that level of separation. You may see 5 or 10 % but none of this 50% business. It's just crazy
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