[PGT] Flames blank Bruins 4-0. But team needs to score more, apparently

[Enoch Root]

LOL

Well please keep us posted as to your personal, arbitrary team evaluations, and let us know if you decide to update them, because we all care deeply.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Crapping my pants? Hardly. If they beat my prediction, great. I want this franchise to excel. We have had a pretty soft schedule so far: covid, injuries and lesser quality of competition. Yet, they are winning these games. The way they are winning is showing a lot about this team’s will to improve under sutter’s guidance.

I still stand by my prediction. I have to. Otherwise I’d be a worm. If it comes to pass then what? Do I call you out? Man I could give a rats @$$. And geez this place is a real hotbed for retaliation. The years of mediocrity have turned this fan base into a real fragile group.

I’m still happy to watch this group progress, but this isn’t the same team that ward was coaching. Sutter is pulling all the right strings.

And 2.16 could still be in the cards for this group.

That's pretty stupid. Just admit you were completely wrong and just go with the flow..

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Do you see what you did? it's like saying Betlejuice three times. you never say Beetlejuice three times.

I love how people are so ad hominem around here. More credibility for the fragile fan base.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

That's pretty stupid. Just admit you were completely wrong and just go with the flow..

I have admitted I was wrong about certain things. I will when I continue to be. But insulting people for their opinions is pretty benevolent of you.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

LOL

Well please keep us posted as to your personal, arbitrary team evaluations, and let us know if you decide to update them, because we all care deeply.

Wait, you haven’t been waiting on pins and needles to see whether Ziggy has been swayed by the performance of the team?

Have… have I been wasting my time?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Isles were out four top defenceman and their top PWF. Habs were lucky to ride Carey to the final. They were terrible last year despite their run. They put it together in the playoffs. They were the last seed only because of our ineptitude. Reaching on that one I’d say. They made the cup finals but were obliterated by Tampa. Pittsburgh didn’t have carter,Crosby nor malkin. Boston has lost tuuka task and Bergeron pasta and marchy have only a mercurial Taylor hall as support?

I just don’t see a work beater yet. I see a more hungry team who is getting early positive results but I’m undeterred as of yet.

So who is good?

[FireGilbert]

The Flames have played zero games so far against the western bottom feeders Phoenix, Seattle, Chicago, and Vancouver. The Oilers have played 5 of their 17 games against them.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I love how people are so ad hominem around here. More credibility for the fragile fan base.

please go back into hiding

Before today the last time he posted was the leafs game

shocker

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I love how people are so ad hominem around here. More credibility for the fragile fan base.

So somebody makes an obvious joke, and you respond with an ad-hominem attack against the entire fan base… and claim that they are the ones making ad-hominem attacks. Fascinating.

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I still stand by my prediction. I have to. Otherwise I’d be a worm.

As the economist Paul Samuelson said (sometimes attributing it to John Maynard Keynes): ‘When I find new information I change my mind. What do you do?’

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

LOL

Well please keep us posted as to your personal, arbitrary team evaluations, and let us know if you decide to update them, because we all care deeply.

Arbitrary team evaluations? Sure. Whatever you say. I think what I suggested isn’t arbitrary at all. I think it’s a pointed rebuttal to all the gushing going on.

I have been a fan a long time. Yet you suggest that no one cares whatsoever? Shucks look at all the sensitive nerves I seem to strike with my opinions. If anything it suggests that people do care so as to prove me wrong. I’m happy to be the antagonist fan that isn’t so easily swayed over a hot start.

And if anyone does care to remember, I have given credit where it’s due and eaten a helping of crow already after my rash comments after the Anaheim game.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I love how people are so ad hominem around here. More credibility for the fragile fan base.

Oh, the ironing

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Oh, the ironing

lol.

This place is great.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I thought the Associate Coaching in this game was spot-on, and it looked like the trainers and equipment managers came prepared.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

So somebody makes an obvious joke, and you respond with an ad-hominem attack against the entire fan base… and claim that they are the ones making ad-hominem attacks. Fascinating.



As the economist Paul Samuelson said (sometimes attributing it to John Maynard Keynes): ‘When I find new information I change my mind. What do you do?’

I said the fan base has become fragile after years of mediocrity. I said the one poster was using ad hominem language.

People cherry pick pretty good around here. Nice quote by the way, I definitely don’t change my mind when presented with new data.

The mark of an educated mind is to entertain a notion without adopting it. “Aristiotle”.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Oh, the ironing

Who have I attacked personally? I say controversial things and the homer mob comes riding through to accost me. I don’t mind but I call it when I see it. Some ironing… who irons any more?

I have been posting here for so long but this doesn’t surprise me. People are very protective of their safe spaces.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Who have I attacked personally? I say controversial things and the homer mob comes riding through to accost me. I don’t mind but I call it when I see it. Some ironing… who irons any more?

I have been posting here for so long but this doesn’t surprise me. People are very protective of their safe spaces.

If you say something that isn't true and double and triple down you are going to be called out. Flames have not had a soft schedule...travel and opponents records it has been one of the hardest in the league.

you were pretty quick to crown the Oilers this season but with the Flames its just a hot start apparently.

Whatever, hopefully the Flames keep winning so you keep not posting for weeks at a time.

[Enoch Root]

Lol

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I said the fan base has become fragile after years of mediocrity. I said the one poster was using ad hominem language.

No, you said ‘people are so ad hominem around here’. That's a shot at the entire board. And you didn't say anything about ‘years of mediocrity’, you just delivered a shot at the ‘fragile fan base’ as if everyone on CP was having a fit of the vapours because they couldn't deal with the TRVTH!!! as delivered solely by the great Ziggy Lidstrom.

People cherry pick pretty good around here.

Another ad-hominem against the board in general. Do you have any argument at all, beyond insults?

Nice quote by the way, I definitely don’t change my mind when presented with new data.

Then you are being extremely foolish. Good to see that you admit it. I wonder whether you have the capacity to change it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I have admitted I was wrong about certain things. I will when I continue to be. But insulting people for their opinions is pretty benevolent of you.

You had just said if you admit you’re wrong you’re a worm. Which is it?

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

No, you said ‘people are so ad hominem around here’. That's a shot at the entire board. And you didn't say anything about ‘years of mediocrity’, you just delivered a shot at the ‘fragile fan base’ as if everyone on CP was having a fit of the vapours because they couldn't deal with the TRVTH!!! as delivered solely by the great Ziggy Lidstrom.



Another ad-hominem against the board in general. Do you have any argument at all, beyond insults?



Then you are being extremely foolish.

Man you’re cherry picking and using hyperbole.

Yes I did say something in regards to fragility due to mediocrity. It’s fine. You don’t want to have productive discussion with me. I get it.

I’m not rehashing my arguments that are there for all to see.

And yeah it seems like the majority of rebuttal is ad hominem towards me. I see that my opinions are unpopular but that doesn’t discourage me.