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Old 11-19-2021, 11:36 PM   #301
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Saw news footage of grocery store produce sections being totally cleared out.

People over there realize that the fresh produce has a relatively short shelf life, and unless you're planning to eat it all right away is pretty wasteful to collect, right?

Why are people so dumb.

There's certainly be lots of panic buying going on, but 5 days without replenishment will also make shelves look bare too
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Old 11-19-2021, 11:42 PM   #302
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Old 11-20-2021, 01:23 AM   #303
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Wow, Highway 8 is destroyed.
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Old 11-20-2021, 04:49 AM   #304
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Jeez, forecast for those areas says it's suppose to rain for the next 2 weeks with some affected areas getting over 200mm.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:22 AM   #305
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Jeez, forecast for those areas says it's suppose to rain for the next 2 weeks with some affected areas getting over 200mm.

Finally, back to seasonal West coast weather...


Honestly I don't know how they're going to do these repairs when the rain - and snow in higher elevations - is just going to keep coming for the next 6 months.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:34 AM   #306
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A very good friend of mine is a Geotechnical engineer based in Vancouver. He is an expert in groundwater and slope stability, and has been contracted to work on the repairs. I don't expect him to be able to share a lot of info, but I am curious to hear his feedback.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:42 AM   #307
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This is Canada. The environmental studies and other required reviews and permits alone will take months.
Environmental studies need to take a while to understand conditions. Of course real studies take a long time. You need data and data takes time to collect, and analyzed. Then, it needs to go into report form which undergoes multiple rounds of comments by various geologists, hydrologists, and from the Provincial Environmental arm. Time is not on their side, but it’s not their fault. There’s no real way to speed things up on the environmental side. Hell, consultants working for developers, those reviews tend to go out yearly with a whole years worth of data. It’s not a small task.

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Maybe we should go back to shipping goods by canoe.
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Environmental studies need to take a while to understand conditions. Of course real studies take a long time. You need data and data takes time to collect, and analyzed. Then, it needs to go into report form which undergoes multiple rounds of comments by various geologists, hydrologists, and from the Provincial Environmental arm. Time is not on their side, but it’s not their fault. There’s no real way to speed things up on the environmental side. Hell, consultants working for developers, those reviews tend to go out yearly with a whole years worth of data. It’s not a small task.
To add to this, there is a significant amount of work to be done just to assess the stability of the wreckage and the slopes above it. There is no point jumping into rebuilding if there is an inherent risk hanging above.
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Old 11-20-2021, 01:46 PM   #310
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Getting a working gravel one lane fix in is wholly seperate from 'fixing' the road, they will have the hwys open but slow fairly quickly (well not hwy 8 but that doesnt really matter much), the geotechnical work was mostly done for the original hwy and theres not much choice as to where its going to go, mostly its going to be a case of dumping several million tons of boulders into the gaps while clearly understanding that yes it can and will all be swept away again at some point in the future as it has been in the past
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Old 11-21-2021, 05:24 PM   #311
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Just found out some friends of friends (I never met) died in the landslide near Duffery Lake.
A young couple who left their 2 year old with grandparents and were headed to Kelowna for a getaway.
Absolutely heartbreaking, terrible news. Poor girl lost both of her parents.
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Just found out some friends of friends (I never met) died in the landslide near Duffery Lake.
A young couple who left their 2 year old with grandparents and were headed to Kelowna for a getaway.
Absolutely heartbreaking, terrible news. Poor girl lost both of her parents.
That is heartbreaking.
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Just found out some friends of friends (I never met) died in the landslide near Duffery Lake.
A young couple who left their 2 year old with grandparents and were headed to Kelowna for a getaway.
Absolutely heartbreaking, terrible news. Poor girl lost both of her parents.
I am so so sorry. So heartbreaking
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Old 11-22-2021, 01:59 AM   #314
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Just found out some friends of friends (I never met) died in the landslide near Duffery Lake.
A young couple who left their 2 year old with grandparents and were headed to Kelowna for a getaway.
Absolutely heartbreaking, terrible news. Poor girl lost both of her parents.
Awful.. sorry..
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Played beer league hockey last night and one of the guys on our team works for CN, he says they have 10 bridges washed out on their mainline right now and the current plan is to begin diverting trains at Winnipeg and sending them south to route west on BNSF to Seattle and then up to Vancouver.
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Played beer league hockey last night and one of the guys on our team works for CN, he says they have 10 bridges washed out on their mainline right now and the current plan is to begin diverting trains at Winnipeg and sending them south to route west on BNSF to Seattle and then up to Vancouver.
Crazy that both CP and CN are still touting that repairs are underway and service will be restored by this week. I mean come on.... we all can see the damage... I'll give them one thing though, they are both great at keeping stuff out of the media. Finding out damage on the rail lines is so much harder than the highways.



I wonder what capacity BNSF was running those lines at and how much extra they can take.
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Old 11-22-2021, 01:55 PM   #317
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I do railway work for BNSF, and I don't think people grasp how quickly they can get lines back up and running. If we have a rail switch (turnout) failure you are talking hours to remove and replace it. Modular switches are stockpiled all over the USA for that reason, and the mainline is no different.

That said, the mainline is a different animal, but railways have equipment and supplies ready to move the instant something goes down. I've seen a washed out bridge (the structure was still generally intact but the rail was toast) repaired in a few days, including ballast and track. Granted this was the USA, but I don't feel CP or CN would operate any differently.
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Looks like the coast could get another storm with the same volumes of rain.
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Old 11-22-2021, 01:58 PM   #319
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Highway 3 closed again with another washout.

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Looks like the coast could get another storm with the same volumes of rain.
And forecasted snowfalls of up to 30cm on parts of the coq.
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