2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Reaper

He's going to shoot his future considerations all over your face.

Hahah nice one.

[Sandman]

Another pipe dream for me is something around Valimaki + for Martin Necas of the Hurricanes. He's a speedy, right-shooting C who can also play wing-great puck skills and playmaking ability, plus he has size (6'2"). They have a plethora of centers there, but their D took a bit of a hit this offseason, despite aquiring DeAngelo.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I think that is a pipe dream. He seems like a core piece for them

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Reaper

He's going to shoot his future considerations all over your face.

Was hoping for some different imagery.

But fair enough. You do what you have to for picks.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Another pipe dream for me is something around Valimaki + for Martin Necas of the Hurricanes. He's a speedy, right-shooting C who can also play wing-great puck skills and playmaking ability, plus he has size (6'2"). They have a plethora of centers there, but their D took a bit of a hit this offseason, despite aquiring DeAngelo.

I have a feeling Valimaki is heading somewhere. I don’t think Sutter likes him.

Lots of healthy scratches this year and last year.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I have a feeling Valimaki is heading somewhere. I don’t think Sutter likes him.

Lots of healthy scratches this year and last year.

As long as we get some obscure Euro prospect and a 2nd round pick for him....

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Another pipe dream for me is something around Valimaki + for Martin Necas of the Hurricanes. He's a speedy, right-shooting C who can also play wing-great puck skills and playmaking ability, plus he has size (6'2"). They have a plethora of centers there, but their D took a bit of a hit this offseason, despite aquiring DeAngelo.

Necas is a core piece for him, that plus could be Mangiapane and they wouldn’t bite.


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[really?]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Another pipe dream for me is something around Valimaki + for Martin Necas of the Hurricanes. He's a speedy, right-shooting C who can also play wing-great puck skills and playmaking ability, plus he has size (6'2"). They have a plethora of centers there, but their D took a bit of a hit this offseason, despite aquiring DeAngelo.

Probably a pipe dream, but this is the direction management should be going. The future is ever present in this league and a guy like Necas would be a boon presently, and is clearly a future piece. Trading a pre-apex player like Valimaki for someone who is already at the apex, or beyond that point, would be a step backwards. That is the way this squad has traditionally made moves, and those moves have produced predictably mediocre results.

The Flames are in a good position at this point with a solid squad and a few extra pieces of value. Hopefully they continue to build for the long run, or stay put. The kind of guys other teams tend to look to move are their versions of Sean Monahan, good players, but not game altering pieces. If the Flames are chasing that market then I would hope they leave the checkbook at home.

[GranteedEV]

I don't think the Flames have the pieces to acquire Necas, but that would be pretty amazing. It would basically give us our own poor-man's versions of the 2019 Bruins' top nine

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak --> Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
DeBrusk-Krejci-Backes --> Coleman-Necas-Mangiapane
Johansson-Coyle-Heinen --> Dube-Backlund-Pitlick

[getoverit]

That 3rd line looks ooof
Dunno why People high on Dube.

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I don't think the Flames have the pieces to acquire Necas, but that would be pretty amazing. It would basically give us our own poor-man's versions of the 2019 Bruins' top nine

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak --> Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
DeBrusk-Krejci-Backes --> Coleman-Necas-Mangiapane
Johansson-Coyle-Heinen --> Dube-Backlund-Pitlick

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by getoverit

That 3rd line looks ooof
Dunno why People high on Dube.

He looked like his game was getting better at his natural position of centre, but his faceoffs were bad and he was sent back to the wing, where he is less effective.

He has all of the raw talent to be a Lindholm-lite, but his confidence is in the absolute gutter right now. I think that fans and management were/are hoping that he turns into a very high end third line centre that can play up and down the lineup in a pinch. Super valuable, non expensive guy, but he has hit a stone wall.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think that is a pipe dream. He seems like a core piece for them

Yeah, Carolina seems to be doing just fine. They don’t seem to have any huge holes and probably aren’t looking at any shake ups that involve switching out core pieces.

[Funkhouser]

I feel like Dube is a good middle 6 forward, who still has breakout potential.
He certainly doesn't hurt the team. And I feel he still has room to grow and put his game together. IMO he is not near his peak, and his peak is a 20g-20a centre.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I feel like Dube is a good middle 6 forward, who still has breakout potential.
He certainly doesn't hurt the team. And I feel he still has room to grow and put his game together. IMO he is not near his peak, and his peak is a 20g-20a centre.

I also don’t see him as a liability. He dazzles a little bit but is not a huge factor at this point. There is possible breakout potential still, especially if injuries force him to play up in the line up.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by really?

Probably a pipe dream, but this is the direction management should be going.

Yes, trading a player that is having trouble beating out Zadorov for a core great young player is the way to go.


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[AustinL_NHL]

Dube has had a bit of poor puck luck, as the Flames create many chances when he's on the ice, but his defensive impact has been brutal this season. Complete liability in his own zone. Worst of any Flames player so far in fact.

He also needs to wax his stick. Guy can't hold on to the puck for more than 2 seconds before it just slides off and results in a turnover.

Probably the biggest disappointment so far this season in my opinion

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Yes, trading a player that is having trouble beating out Zadorov for a core great young player is the way to go.


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I said it was a pipe dream, and I think the point that poster was trying to make is that the team should be trading more for youth that can grow into core players, rather than older spare parts. Perhaps trade speculation is not my thing, my apologies to all....

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I said it was a pipe dream, and I think the point that poster was trying to make is that the team should be trading more for youth that can grow into core players, rather than older spare parts. Perhaps trade speculation is not my thing, my apologies to all....

I haven’t seen the term pipe dream in a while, so I looked it up:

The experience of smoking opium caused the user to hallucinate. At the time, these hallucinations were called opium dreams, opium pipe dreams, or pipe dreams. In the 1870s, the term pipe dream came into use to describe the hallucinations a person experienced while under the influence of opium.

Acquiring Necas definitely fits the description of a pipe dream.

[Heavy Jack]

If Sandman’s trade proposals are pipe dreams than mine are straight up pipe nightmares lol don’t sweat it Sandman and don’t let it discourage you from posting your thoughts and speculation! You are an extremely knowledgeable fan who knows a ton about the up and coming pools of talent with how much research and time you spend on tracking prospects.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I said it was a pipe dream, and I think the point that poster was trying to make is that the team should be trading more for youth that can grow into core players, rather than older spare parts. Perhaps trade speculation is not my thing, my apologies to all....

It was pretty funny how you opened with “another pipe dream for me” and then a bunch of posters said “whoa that’s a pipe dream!” ….. ‘uhhhh yes. Yes it is. That’s what I said.’