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[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by timun

They've been demonstrably incompetent by refusing vaccination for the last 10 months. They were some of the first in line, have had all the opportunity in the world to take it, and have refused. For that, absolutely they're incompetent. Willfully and shamefully.



Nah, shame on you. Your BS in this thread, including this post, is absolutely absurd. #### your "religious and personal belief".



Whatever they were before it's irrelevant: they're villains now. They're selfish fools putting everyone else around them at risk. They absolutely deserve derision and scorn at this point.



Nah man, it's all about public health. If these unvaccinated dopes cared about the public, about anyone but themselves, they'd have been vaccinated months and months ago.



Lol, if anyone needs the dictionary it's you, bud. You might want to bust it out and learn how to spell in the first place.

SHADENFREUDE: The act of feeling joy or bliss frome the agony of others. Associated with being an evil narcissistic sadist.

Yeah I spelled the German word wrong, at least I didn't use it to out myself as an evil POS. You can stop acting like this is about the welfare of the public for you.

[GioforPM]

Makes up definition and cries about it. No actual dictionary associates shadenfeude with “evil” or “narcissism” or “sadism”.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

SHADENFREUDE: The act of feeling joy or bliss frome the agony of others. Associated with being an evil narcissistic sadist.

Yeah I spelled the German word wrong, at least I didn't use it to out myself as an evil POS. You can stop acting like this is about the welfare of the public for you.

The public has spoken.

87.6% (1)
81.5% (2)

The war is over.

Come home.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The public has spoken.

87.6% (1)
81.5% (2)

The war is over.

Come home.

I'm vaccinated buddy. I just don't think anyone should have to share that information with you or anyone else.

[Harry Lime]

Strange place to find this conversation.

The biggest problem stemming from the last (separating it from the previous three) wave was the cancellation of surgeries due to volume.

I haven't heard any stories about people going into a hospital and hearing about NOT taking vaccines from any doctors, nurses or staff. If they have alternate beliefs, they are keeping it to themselves. Personal choices are being kept personal. The idea that health care workers are quietly trying to spread misinformation within a hospital is just a boogeyman.

K95 and other PPE, sanitation and ventilation in a hospital is highly effective. So much so that in the rare cases where a health care worker became infected in a hospital, it was in the news. The assumption being made here is that there is going to be a breakdown in professionalism at the hospital leading to cases, and that has never happened.

This is all overstating the danger for political theatre, and the only sure result is going to be the cancellation of surgeries due to lack of staff. That was the worst part of the last wave! As a person who has two people that I care about waiting on surgery, it's frustrating that posturing is going to cost them more time.

I have zero worries that (on the small chance) if one of the people involved in a surgery is not vaccinated, they are going to incorrectly use their PPE, and start preaching about whatever personal reason they have for not being vaccinated.

The reason there is going to be a second delay on surgeries is going to be because of emotional and political reaction, and not even the virus. Am I allowed to have the same amount of pissed off rage at the people denying access to surgeries in the next two months, as they have against unvaccinated health care workers?

Unvaccinated health care workers have not been a cause of spread, but putting them on unpaid leave will be a cause of delayed surgery.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

I'm vaccinated buddy. I just don't think anyone should have to share that information with you or anyone else.

That’s excellent to hear. I’m glad you’re vaccinated.

You don’t have to share that information with me, or anyone on this board.

You do have to share it with the staff of establishments you wish to visit because it’s the reality of the situation.

I hate having to pull my stupid piece of paper out and watch the hostess scan my entire vaccination history going back to birth looking for the COVID doses, then back to my drivers license, then back to the paper.

But it helps them feel safe, and it helps me feel safe, and it motivates people to actually get the shot.

It’s almost over.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3641067/

This is a study from 2013 and it talks in great detail about why the prevalence of infectious disease correlates so strongly with a population holding authoritarian beliefs.

TL;DR - nobody wants to die from an infectious pathogen before their time, and they will trade your freedoms and mine to ensure that doesn’t happen.

So the best thing to do to keep that sentiment at bay is for everyone to step up. When the threat of the virus abates, things will return to the way they were.

It’s counterproductive to resist or even support those who do philosophically. They’re wrong. They’re allowed to be wrong, to a point.

But they can’t be surprised when 4/5 of their neighbours who have taken a needle and moved on with their lives are extremely angry at them for dragging this out.

3,164 residents of this province have died since March 2020.

123 are in ICU as I write this, and many of those that don’t die are going to be dealing with the after effects for the rest of their lives.

That’s apparently not enough for some people.

So they can remain at home. It’s nothing personal; we just can’t have them killing people. Something else they seem blithely unaware of.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Makes up definition and cries about it. No actual dictionary associates shadenfeude with “evil” or “narcissism” or “sadism”.

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/an...denfreude.html

Here's a link with the synonyms

I can also add some context from the origins of the word and some well known philosophers, but I have the feeling it would be wasted on you.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

That’s excellent to hear. I’m glad you’re vaccinated.

You don’t have to share that information with me, or anyone on this board.

You do have to share it with the staff of establishments you wish to visit because it’s the reality of the situation.

I hate having to pull my stupid piece of paper out and watch the hostess scan my entire vaccination history going back to birth looking for the COVID doses, then back to my drivers license, then back to the paper.

But it helps them feel safe, and it helps me feel safe, and it motivates people to actually get the shot.

It’s almost over.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3641067/

This is a study from 2013 and it talks in great detail about why the prevalence of infectious disease correlates so strongly with a population holding authoritarian beliefs.

TL;DR - nobody wants to die from an infectious pathogen before their time, and they will trade your freedoms and mine to ensure that doesn’t happen.

So the best thing to do to keep that sentiment at bay is for everyone to step up. When the threat of the virus abates, things will return to the way they were.

It’s counterproductive to resist or even support those who do philosophically. They’re wrong. They’re allowed to be wrong, to a point.

But they can’t be surprised when 4/5 of their neighbours who have taken a needle and moved on with their lives are extremely angry at them for dragging this out.

3,164 residents of this province have died since March 2020.

123 are in ICU as I write this, and many of those that don’t die are going to be dealing with the after effects for the rest of their lives.

That’s apparently not enough for some people.

So they can remain at home. It’s nothing personal; we just can’t have them killing people. Something else they seem blithely unaware of.

Yeah I'm arguing with people who say we need to do more and act like its just a drivers license as if you should need a license to be in society and there isn't anything abnormal or unique about all this. I said my piece on that though and then some people decided to talk about how much enjoyment they would get from people dying....yeah this is ugly.

[CsInMyBlood]

Uhhh...is it wrong I have no idea who Aaron Rogers is?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Yeah I'm arguing with people who say we need to do more and act like its just a drivers license as if you should need a license to be in society and there isn't anything abnormal or unique about all this. I said my piece on that though and then some people decided to talk about how much enjoyment they would get from people dying....yeah this is ugly.

It’s very ugly. And it’s likely to get uglier before this is over.

Hold fast - I still like you.

And to my other fellow posters. Be as compassionate as you can. And when it feels like you can’t, try harder.

It isn’t easy. If it was, doing so wouldn’t be admirable.

But we see you.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/an...denfreude.html

Here's a link with the synonyms

I can also add some context from the origins of the word and some well known philosophers, but I have the feeling it would be wasted on you.

LOL. Pretty sure my education tops yours, but go on. And next time use a real dictionary.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

LOL. Pretty sure my education tops yours, but go on. And next time use a real dictionary.

Oooo the Lawyer flex. My comprehension seems to top yours....but that says more about you than me. You think you are a smart guy, but your only supporting evidence is " mah education". Sounds like you got your education and decided it was enough to stop learning. Smart people know they don't know everything. Here we are though arguing about the use of a word thats been used in English for over 150 years. I provide evidence, you flex your education, that doesn't mean #### all . Lots of imbeciles have a degree.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

LOL. Pretty sure my education tops yours, but go on. And next time use a real dictionary.

Fourth, we tend to see Schadenfreude as a form of respite—the failures of others appease our own envy and inadequacy, and give us a much-needed glimpse of superiority. It says as much about our own vulnerabilities as our attitudes to the behavior of others. And just as satire is only funny when it punches up, we are most comfortable s######ing at the failures of those more wealthy, attractive and talented than us. As the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, one of the great theorists of this emotion, argued, Schadenfreude is “the revenge of the impotent.”

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Oooo the Lawyer flex. My comprehension seems to top yours....but that says more about you than me. You think you are a smart guy, but your only supporting evidence is " mah education". Sounds like you got your education and decided it was enough to stop learning. Smart people know they don't know everything. Here we are though arguing about the use of a word thats been used in English for over 150 years. I provide evidence, you flex your education, that doesn't mean #### all . Lots of imbeciles have a degree.

Your “evidence” isn’t evidence. It’s a weird on line search, that ignores every dictionary definition ever.

And it’s not a lawyer flex, it’s simply saying I think I understand what a simple word like shadenfreude means, simply by it’s two components, plus years of using it. It’s never associated with being evil. It’s associated with the psychological condition of enjoyment of bad things happening to bad people.

Here’s the ordinary meaning. How many sites did you search before you found one that made shadenfreude something for “evil narcissists”?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict.../schadenfreude

BTW, I don’t have a degree. I have three.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Your “evidence” isn’t evidence. It’s a weird on line search, that ignores every dictionary definition ever.

And it’s not a lawyer flex, it’s simply saying I think I understand what a simple word like shadenfreude means, simply by it’s two components, plus years of using it. It’s never associated with being evil. It’s associated with the psychological condition of enjoyment of bad things happening to bad people.

Here’s the ordinary meaning. How many sites did you search before you found one that made shadenfreude something for “evil narcissists”?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict.../schadenfreude

BTW, I don’t have a degree. I have three.

One search for synonyms. Clicked on 1st link. If its such a simple word why are you ignoring its primary use. Its isn't enjoying bad things happening to bad people, its enjoying bad things happening to people you don't like.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Fourth, we tend to see Schadenfreude as a form of respite—the failures of others appease our own envy and inadequacy, and give us a much-needed glimpse of superiority. It says as much about our own vulnerabilities as our attitudes to the behavior of others. And just as satire is only funny when it punches up, we are most comfortable s######ing at the failures of those more wealthy, attractive and talented than us. As the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, one of the great theorists of this emotion, argued, Schadenfreude is “the revenge of the impotent.”

And now plagiarizing. From remarkably poorly written sources. “One of the greatest theorists of this emotion”. BTW, your hero ultimately didn’t think one could act morally out of anything but self interest, and dismissed notions like acting from compassion. If you like nihilism (maybe taking the form of letting unvaccinated people just come and go as they want) then maybe.

There’s nothing evil about a little shadenfreude. It’s just natural.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

One search for synonyms. Clicked on 1st link. If its such a simple word why are you ignoring its primary use. Its isn't enjoying bad things happening to bad people, its enjoying bad things happening to people you don't like.

It’s primary use doesn’t mean evil, narcissistic or sadistic. You latched onto those.

Did you like when Hans Gruber fell in Die Hard? You sadist?

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And now plagiarizing. From remarkably poorly written sources. “One of the greatest theorists of this emotion”. BTW, your hero ultimately didn’t think one could act morally out of anything but self interest, and dismissed notions like acting from compassion. If you like nihilism (maybe taking the form of letting unvaccinated people just come and go as they want) then maybe.

There’s nothing evil about a little shadenfreude. It’s just natural.

You asked for the evidence and rejected it. You used the Merriam definition but added your own interpretation then accused me of latching on to synonyms. You assume a randomly quoted philosopher is my hero and that I'm a nihilist. For a lawyer you sure love making up evidence. We are done here. You are clearly too stubborn and arrogant to have any kind of reasonable discussion. Hope you enjoy waiving your 3 degrees in someone else's face.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

You asked for the evidence and rejected it. You used the Merriam definition but added your own interpretation then accused me of latching on to synonyms. You assume a randomly quoted philosopher is my hero and that I'm a nihilist. For a lawyer you sure love making up evidence. We are done here. You are clearly too stubborn and arrogant to have any kind of reasonable discussion. Hope you enjoy waiving your 3 degrees in someone else's face.

I accused you because you used your “synonyms” in your “definition”. You’ve quoted said philosopher three times as some sort of authority.

BTW, your synonyms don’t appear in the list at first glance. But “jocularity” does. So does “merriment”. But you chose not to use them. Weird.

It’s “waving”, not “waiving”.

[woolymammoth]

I always knew i liked Mikka more than Giordano.