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Old 11-11-2021, 07:01 PM   #281
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I think a massive part of defense is being able to make a clean outlet pass with the puck on your stick.

If you can't do that, then it doesn't matter how good you are without the puck. More scoring chances are scored off turnovers than not.
Well sure, but that’s not the analysis which is being made here.

If you want me to agree Zadorov is a bad passer, sure.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:01 PM   #282
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Maybe the same reason he didn't play Kylington first 2 games. He isn't god and he isn't perfect.
Are you speaking of “ the consistently great” Kylington?
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Lindholm needs to step it up. He's bringing down that line. Looks like Backlund out there without the hustle.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:02 PM   #284
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They need to come out a lot better than in the 3rd against San Jose.
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Dude you get riled up every time or think you got an answer for everything. Just relax it’s hockey I don’t really care but this is my opinion on the game because the Flames are way better than the Habs so far this season.
He's the resident troll. Don't feed him.
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Are you speaking of “ the consistently great” Kylington?
What's been your takeaway from Kylington this year? I think he's been their third-best D behind Tanev and Andersson — but very close to Andersson.

All three have been pretty consistently great, IMO.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:03 PM   #287
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Are you speaking of “ the consistently great” Kylington?
Yes our best defenceman this season so far.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:04 PM   #288
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Some lazy plays - Hanifin, Lindholm, Tkachuk.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:05 PM   #289
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It took me a while to figure out who 'pailing' was lol
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Well sure, but that’s not the analysis which is being made here.

If you want me to agree Zadorov is a bad passer, sure.
My point is, a so-called defensive defenseman who is a bad passer, is a liability.

Zadorov is basically what I was expecting Gudbranson to be.

To wit you're right, a team can afford to have one purely defensive defenseman on its roster, especially on its third pair where they won't be dragging down the offensive zone opportunities of the top nine forwards on a consistent basis.

But we already have that - it's Gudbranson and he can make an outlet pass.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:05 PM   #291
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sounds like you are the one riled up

it was a poor post...I don't think you will find many people that agree that being tied 2-2 or the road after two is an "embarrassment"
Nah me riled up nope. You like to engage cause you are a keyboard warrior. I don’t really care. Keep it moving Dino.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:06 PM   #292
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1458173800990793731

Huska's take on Zadorov early struggles, and improvement starts around 6:20. I can get behind that reasoning.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:06 PM   #293
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Josh Anderson is having a hell of a game
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Hanafin can take a seat for the rest of the game. He’s been terrible tonight!!
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My point is, a so-called defensive defenseman who is a bad passer, is a liability.

Zadorov is basically what I was expecting Gudbranson to be.

To whit you're right, a team can afford to have one purely defensive defenseman on its roster, especially on its third pair where they won't be dragging down the offensive zone opportunities of the top nine forwards on a consistent basis.

But we already have that - it's Gudbranson and he can make an outlet pass.
Oh, I wasn’t saying anyone should be purely defensive. I’m saying the analysis needs to consider roles and not just assume equality among stats for players in different roles.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:08 PM   #298
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Zadorov with another turnover almost causing a breakaway.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:09 PM   #299
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Zadorov with another turnover almost causing a breakaway.
Which he stopped. He’d had a pretty good shift there. His “turnover” was a dump in. He wasn’t passing to anyone. It should have been deeper, that’s all.
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Flames are on their heels now. Looks like they play a back to back game today
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