The Phoenix Lights

[Azure]

Wow cool thread.

Didn't even know this happened.

[Alpha_Q]

Originally Posted by photon

Totally true as well, one of the proposed solutions to the paradox; they are so advanced and/or different that we can't know them.

Our first brush with ET will probably be something dull and anticlimactic - like an archaeological (fossil on mars) discovery, bacteria of extraterrestial origin, or a signal discovered by SETI. Sometimes though, you'd like to think that KLAATU landing here would give us a much needed slap to the back of our collective heads.

[Shazam]

All I ask is that if I'm abducted, they use lube.

[SaskaBushFire]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

If I had UFO's circling the house you can bet the shotgun would come out a'blazin'!!!

LoL.. I just got a mental picture of a middle aged man running out in his house coat shooting wildly into the sky cursing Canuck fans. Rofl..

[zukes]

This stuff always interests me.

[Buzzard]

The governor at the time tells what he thinks lights were!

http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...oID=1329011875

[Lanny_MacDonald]

That certainly adds some serious credability to the discussion IMO. Ex-fighter pilot, someone who would have access to the information to support the government claim, and highly respected citizen, certainly blows the "flare" explanation away. More fuel that continues to make this such an intriguing story.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by SaskaBushFire

LoL.. I just got a mental picture of a middle aged man running out in his house coat shooting wildly into the sky cursing Canuck fans. Rofl..

An accurate description as it turns out . . . .

Cowperson

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

The governor at the time tells what he thinks lights were!

http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...oID=1329011875

And now it is in the National Post

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

That certainly adds some serious credability to the discussion IMO. Ex-fighter pilot, someone who would have access to the information to support the government claim, and highly respected citizen, certainly blows the "flare" explanation away. More fuel that continues to make this such an intriguing story.

Originally Posted by National Post

Political experts and those investigating the Phoenix Lights say Mr. Symington's statement lends credibility to the UFO theory

Lanny, are you becoming a journalist?

[photon]

So one more witness adds credibility, just because the witness is well respected or is an elected official? Isn't that just an appeal to authority? Is this person somehow immune to being fooled?

It was "probably one form of an alien spacecraft," added the Vietnam Air Force veteran, and challenged the U.S. Defense Department to prove otherwise.

How many fallacies can we fit into a single sentence?

"It's going to have a huge impact on this story," said William Warwick, an investigative journalist who is organizing a conference for witnesses of the Phoenix Lights. Mr. Symington is the highest elected official in the country to admit to seeing the lights, he noted.

Oh, there's a conference, likely with many books and materials available for purchase in a convenient fashion...

[burns2002]

Originally Posted by Shazam

All I ask is that if I'm abducted, they use lube.

ha ha ha,
if i got abducted i would try to poke the alien in the brain. from what everyone who has been abducted says, the aliens look exactly like they do on tv, so if their brain is showing, and you poke it with a stick or something, it should be easy to turn them into a drooling idiot and get out of there.

[Knut]

I have always had a fascination with Aliens and UFO's etc... including many nights spent as a child thinking every headlight that went buy was an alien craft.

I do However beleive that their is life on other planets, but to me i find it difficult to beleive that they would have the means to visit our puny civilization. We have not been broadcasting radio/tv waves long enough to really be detected either.

I hate thinking about space and time and time travel and the infinite universe because it makes my head hurt... i need a beer.

[troutman]

It is still a HUGE leap from UFO to aliens. UFO means unidentified flying object. If these lights were from some kind of craft, it is far more likely IMO that it is of terrestial origin, ex. a secret military craft.

The universe may be full of life, but the distances between stars are too great to for me to think aliens are visiting us.

Why do people always assume that these sighted objects can only be other-worldly?

[evman150]

Some people in this thread would be well served by reading Carl Sagan's "Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark".

It is my belief that our galaxy is teeming with life, some of which is, inevitably, intelligent. Hundreds of billions of stars of which maybe 1/3 are suitable for the development of life. Maybe 100 billion stars? How many of those stars have planets in the habitable zone? 1 in 20? That is a possible 5,000,000,000 clement worlds in our galaxy alone. Does this mean the lights we see in the sky that we don't recognize are aliens? No.

The main point here is that any alien civilization so advanced as to be able to visit here could surely decide for themselves whether to be seen or not. I don't see why there couldn't be hundreds of civilizations watching us from wherever they may be, but they certainly are not producing a couple flashes in our skies.

Any civilization capable of interstellar travel is farther ahead technologically than us than we are from Neanderthals.