Students barred from games after chants at female goalie

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ViKen

So much wrong with this blanket statement and no reason to bring politics or religion into this.

- Bible belt implies an area of people with Christian beliefs and no where in the Bible or its teachings does it promote this behaviour.
- Liberal/Democrat voters never behave badly? In the West, the vast majority of us did not vote for Trudeau so what is being implied?
- Many southern states such as Texas are red/Trump voters so why are there no instances of these situations in those areas?

Let's try to keep the focus on the idiots in the crowd who did this.

Lots wrong for sure, but there is some right also. There is a reason why AB lags behind in the vaccinations.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by ViKen

So much wrong with this blanket statement and no reason to bring politics or religion into this.

- Bible belt implies an area of people with Christian beliefs and no where in the Bible or its teachings does it promote this behaviour.
- Liberal/Democrat voters never behave badly? In the West, the vast majority of us did not vote for Trudeau so what is being implied?
- Many southern states such as Texas are red/Trump voters so why are there no instances of these situations in those areas?

Let's try to keep the focus on the idiots in the crowd who did this.

No thanks, I am happy to assume anyone I disagree with is a bad person.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by nik-

I will never apologize for being one of the people chanting "Ricci's ugly".

I had a friend at the games at the time who thought people we chanting "Leaky Subway".

And you are correct, Ricci was laughing it up.

There is a world of difference between the two situations.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ViKen

So much wrong with this blanket statement and no reason to bring politics or religion into this.

- Bible belt implies an area of people with Christian beliefs and no where in the Bible or its teachings does it promote this behaviour.
- Liberal/Democrat voters never behave badly? In the West, the vast majority of us did not vote for Trudeau so what is being implied?
- Many southern states such as Texas are red/Trump voters so why are there no instances of these situations in those areas?

Let's try to keep the focus on the idiots in the crowd who did this.

Well, you have a number of generalizations that aren’t true yourself.

-Bible Belt is a pretty well known phrase and it’s socio-geographical. Like Rust Belt, etc. What it implies is at best people who do things based on what they call Christian belief. And believe me, lots of what they say isn’t found in the bible.
-No one ever said anything about Liberal/Dem not behaving badly. But in fact zero people in the “West” voted for Trudeau, unless they did so illegally.
-There are plenty of instances in the south of things like this at HS sporting event. You really don’t want to ask for a list. But Pennsyltucky is more red than a lot of places in Texas, FWIW. Texas is darn close to being a swing state.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by #-3

I should remind you that the vast majority of people on this board at one time ~17 years ago participated in or supported a group of 20,000 people chanting at a person was ugly to their face. Crowd mentalities are a hell of a drug, for the most part this was probably spurred by a few bad apples.

Glad they are doing what they can to make these girls feel supported, glad they are bringing the hammer down on these guys as hard as is reasonable. We need to cut down on the social acceptance of these things.

Yous all need to get off your horses a little bit .

I was onboard until "yous" showed up.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

This scandal was just reported in a blue state. Does that even things out a bit? The town even covered it up because the coach was a cop. Helps check all the boxes of dbaggery.

In June 2020, a varsity boys hockey player reported to school officials and police that two teammates physically restrained him the previous season while another repeatedly struck him in the face with a plastic sex toy because he refused to shout a racial slur in one of the all-white team’s regular locker room rituals.

The sessions were known on the team as “Hard R Fridays,” the “R” referring to the final letter of the n-word, according to the player and other individuals who separately learned about the team’s alleged tradition.

The player later reported the incident to a special investigator commissioned by the Danvers School Committee. He also told school officials, police, and the special investigator that a player touched him inappropriately after the team stripped naked in another locker room ritual known as “Gay Tuesdays,” according to the player and three other people who were with him when he made his statements to investigators.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11/...ed-misconduct/

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Lots wrong for sure, but there is some right also. There is a reason why AB lags behind in the vaccinations.

Last I checked over 80 % of eligible ppl in ab are fully vaccinated. That seems fine to me.

[Slanter]

Originally Posted by morgin

I always love these weird “I’m not defending their actions, but just remember we’ve all done terrible things” posts that crop up with these events. No, I’m pretty confident I’ve never done that or anything remotely similar to that, so, I’m gonna keep on judging.

What's the deal with this? My neighbor took the exact same position on the Sean Chu thing. When you find one of these people, have you stumbled across a person with some serious skeletons in the closet?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, you have a number of generalizations that aren’t true yourself.

-Bible Belt is a pretty well known phrase and it’s socio-geographical. Like Rust Belt, etc. What it implies is at best people who do things based on what they call Christian belief. And believe me, lots of what they say isn’t found in the bible.
-No one ever said anything about Liberal/Dem not behaving badly. But in fact zero people in the “West” voted for Trudeau, unless they did so illegally.
-There are plenty of instances in the south of things like this at HS sporting event. You really don’t want to ask for a list. But Pennsyltucky is more red than a lot of places in Texas, FWIW. Texas is darn close to being a swing state.

Come on. I think you know the intent behind the Bible Belt statement. Absolutely nothing like rust belt in this context. And this region isn’t even considered part of the “bible belt” region, which speaks very much to the flawed assumptions behind the comment.

And suggesting that this kind of behavior is commonplace in the South? Please let’s do better than start googling other examples to try to prove some point.

As for whether rural Penn is more red than rural Texas, IDK about that. Also irrelevant. No idea why people need to bring religion and politics into this.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

If you ever talked to someone from rural PA, or visited rural PA, you’d see we were probably underselling it.

Come on, be better than this. You used to live there or something?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Come on, be better than this. You used to live there or something?

Better than what? Describing the political leanings, religiosity and social progressiveness of a region is now prohibited in your mind?

How about you be better? At thinking critically.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Better than what? Describing the political leanings, religiosity and social progressiveness of a region is now prohibited in your mind?

How about you be better? At thinking critically.

Numerous members of the Chicago Blackhawks just suppressed a sexual assault in their organization. Is your first reaction to learn the nationality, political leanings and religious affiliations of those involved so you can confirm some generalized and stereotyped beliefs?

I am thinking critically when I push back against people that want to come across as experts in judging people from some area or look to find reasons to bring politics and religion into a discussion if it suits their view of the world.

[Goriders]

He’s saying your stereotyping a region to fit whatever axe you have to grind with conservative voters.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Last I checked over 80 % of eligible ppl in ab are fully vaccinated. That seems fine to me.

I said it lagged behind other parts of Canada. The hospitals suggest 80% is not fine, nor do the thousands of people who have died from Covid.

Until the number gets closer to 100%, we'll continue living in a covid repressed world.

[CF84]

Wow...somehow a girl going through awful sexual harassment has transformed into a talk about covid and politics. A conversation about sexual harassment or assault should not be derailed by other topics. If you want to argue about covid, I'm pretty sure there is a thread for that and there is absolutely no need for it to be a part of this conversation.



If an individual is bothered by sexual harassment/assault (only saying this because some seem inclined to be more bothered by the victims), they will probably have met many jerks in all the shades of the political spectrum. As a victim myself, it concerns me when I see people trying to blame the "other side." That is just an excuse so that individuals don't have to look inwards at whatever culture they are involved in until something like Twitter demands it. Now this may seem a bit harsh, and I can understand why the conversation took the turn it did, but there is no reason it can't turn back.


This may have been a case of a group of popular and nasty "leaders" who were being followed by a bunch of conforming kids who were sadly never taught how to truly think for themselves (I'm not excusing them, but I'm hopeful that a few feel terrible in hindsight). This is why I hope I don't fail in teaching my children to lead, while also being able to see situations from others' perspectives compassionately.



Just please don't make this about political spectrum/covid.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Not to derail, but… It’s tough to decouple problems in society from politics

The last president was caught describing grabbing girls by the p***y and that was acceptable for Republicans. Not a problem. This isn’t something the Democrat side are fine with.

Probably emboldening for some people when such things are normalized and accepted

Sorry. Back to the thread

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Not to derail, but… It’s tough to decouple problems in society from politics

The last president was caught describing grabbing girls by the p***y and that was acceptable for Republicans. Not a problem. This isn’t something the Democrat side are fine with.

Probably emboldening for some people when such things are normalized and accepted

Sorry. Back to the thread

Now you’re generalizing.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Now you’re generalizing.

Uh, ok

So what?

Generalizing isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Being able to analyze and use information and to identify trends and themes is an essential tool in critical thinking

I’m not saying every Republican to a person believes that was okay, but guess what? The party leadership didn’t stand up against it, and it was accepted by the voters, not a deal breaker.

There are a lot of issues these days with people grouping together and doing things that are wrong

Normalizing immoral behaviour at the highest level pretty darn likely encourages it elsewhere in society

[Phil Russell]

Sorry, I guess it was my early comment on rural PA that triggered the political argument. I was just basing that comment on places in central PA I have spent a lot of time in from Harrisburg to Johnstown to Jim Thorpe, including trips to youth hockey tourneys. It's a rough area. A lot of social problems. A lot of violence. A lot of really ####ty hockey parents. Based on my experience, I am not surprised this happened there.

[Poe969]

Look, I'm not defending their actions....because I don't think it's possible to defend what they did. Do these kids have parents because if my kid was a part.of something like this, I would be disgusted. The schools can do what they want, hockey USA can do what they want but the parents of these little #### ##### need to do something.

Raise your kids properly. Anyone who says "we were all kids once, and we did crappy things" needs to give their head a shake. There's bugging someone, there's bullying someone, then there's crap like this. Wtf is wrong with the world.