11-04-2021, 07:41 AM
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#241
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Man I think Treliving should have really went all in here.
Buffalo can really want Tuch and Krebs.
But really if you offer Monahan, Valimaki, Zary, Unprotected 1st (Vegas has top 10 protection), Florida 2nd
Are they still going to covet Krebs and Tuch more?
BT needed to push all his chips in and was too afraid to do so.
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11-04-2021, 07:41 AM
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#242
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
Honestly, This is a pathetic return for Eichel. The Flames should have easily been able to beat this.
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LA could have beaten this deal. But didn’t. Anaheim could have beaten this deal. But didn’t. The Rangers could have beaten this deal. But didn’t.
The fact this was the best offer the Sabres got from any NHL franchise suggests Eichel isn’t valued as highly around the league as he was on this board over the last few weeks
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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11-04-2021, 07:41 AM
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#243
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Now world wide!
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I'm not too disappointed with this result, in part because I'm not persuaded Eichel is going to be that good. But I am a bit surprised that there's not a bit more quality heading to Buffalo all the same.
Wonder if we'll hear from BT today, particularly re rumours Tkachuk was part of Calgary's offer.
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11-04-2021, 07:41 AM
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#244
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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I'm glad this is over, it would be so Flames to pay a big price to acquire a guy who is literally broken.
Really what has Eichel ever done in the NHL? Some talk like he is a McDavid or MacKinnon. Hes not. He has never played an entire season and now has a spine issue that nobody knows how hes going to come out of.
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11-04-2021, 07:42 AM
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#245
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by flamesgod
Because they traded for him, doesn’t mean the offer couldn’t have been beaten. Which is what most posters here are upset about.
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What does that even mean? Beaten to who? You? Or buffalo? Because your opinion doesn’t matter. Only how Buffalo evaluated the trade pieces.
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11-04-2021, 07:42 AM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Does anyone think Monahan was waiving for Buffalo? Really? I don't think Monahan was ever possible despite the wishes of fans.
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11-04-2021, 07:43 AM
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#247
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Man I think Treliving should have really went all in here.
Buffalo can really want Tuch and Krebs.
But really if you offer Monahan, Valimaki, Zary, Unprotected 1st (Vegas has top 10 protection), Florida 2nd
Are they still going to covet Krebs and Tuch more?
BT needed to push all his chips in and was too afraid to do so.
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You just made all that up. You have no idea what was offered. You’re inventing facts to fit a narrative.
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11-04-2021, 07:43 AM
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#248
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
What does that even mean? Beaten to who? You? Or buffalo? Because your opinion doesn’t matter. Only how Buffalo evaluated the trade pieces.
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Buffalo obviously. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about that.
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11-04-2021, 07:43 AM
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#249
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by flamesgod
Because they traded for him, doesn’t mean the offer couldn’t have been beaten. Which is what most posters here are upset about.
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Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
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This is the 5th time I pose this question yet nobody has answered it yet.
Why didn't 30 other teams beat this Vegas offer if it was easily beatable like you are all saying.
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11-04-2021, 07:44 AM
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#250
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Man I think Treliving should have really went all in here.
Buffalo can really want Tuch and Krebs.
But really if you offer Monahan, Valimaki, Zary, Unprotected 1st (Vegas has top 10 protection), Florida 2nd
Are they still going to covet Krebs and Tuch more?
BT needed to push all his chips in and was too afraid to do so.
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He's a bottom tier GM who gets bottom tier results. At this stage I legitimately don't think he has the ability to make in-season changes to a roster. It's not in his wheel house, he is incompetent. This guy spent his off-season trading an asset away for Zadarov.
He sucks, and it's why the team has sucked under his lead.
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11-04-2021, 07:44 AM
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#251
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
2 of our prospects, unprotected 1st and dube is a better package. And easily ould have been worth it.
Our GM is ####. What does he even do?
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Show me a single thing that says they had us seriously in the running? Anything?
This isn’t bidding on a house if they wanted Krebs we had no chance no matter what we offered.
Like listening to kids scream at their mom I want it, I want it, while mom yells at them I can’t.
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11-04-2021, 07:45 AM
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#252
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
This is the 5th time I pose this question yet nobody has answered it yet.
Why didn't 30 other teams beat this Vegas offer if it was easily beatable like you are all saying.
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Umm salary cap
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11-04-2021, 07:45 AM
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#253
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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This is what took 6 months to complete?? I wouldn’t be shocked if GMKA received better offers at the draft. What a joke.
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11-04-2021, 07:45 AM
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#254
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Turner Valley
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Not the news I was hoping for this morning. Really does seem like a deal that could have been bested from the Flames. Without the information on the surgery recovery and potential risk, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on not wanting to pay more. But I have a feeling this will look like the Thornton trade in a few years.
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11-04-2021, 07:46 AM
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#256
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Knightslayer
This is the 5th time I pose this question yet nobody has answered it yet.
Why didn't 30 other teams beat this Vegas offer if it was easily beatable like you are all saying.
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Because they can’t. They are convinced we were in the running and I just don’t think we really were. Nothing to do with the gm if our team it has everything to do with the wants of the other GM.
Also your right why didn’t a dozen teams come up with a comparable package??
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11-04-2021, 07:46 AM
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#257
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Knightslayer
This is the 5th time I pose this question yet nobody has answered it yet.
Why didn't 30 other teams beat this Vegas offer if it was easily beatable like you are all saying.
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Probably for the same reason that fans complain about easily-beatable offers most of the time... because their GMs are incompetent
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11-04-2021, 07:46 AM
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#258
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Can't expect anything more from this GM. An absolute disaster of a team with no direction.
At least we spend assets on 6/7 dman lol. It sucks having a GM who has no clue how to build a team.
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11-04-2021, 07:48 AM
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#259
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja
Umm salary cap
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Calgary is pretty much at the cap as well. 30 other teams didn't beat the Vegas offer because we as fans have no idea the real value of Eichel.
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11-04-2021, 07:49 AM
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#260
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by loob job
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Makes sense. Treliving is never anything more than someone used to bid up the price.
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