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Old 11-03-2021, 04:03 PM   #121
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who could be the former 1st?
This is Valimaki.

Zary, Pelltier and Coronato are all still prospects inasmuch as they aren't in the leauge.
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Now that this is out.

One way or another Tkachuk is done as a Flame.
lol its a rumor...I have heard rumors with basically the entire team now
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At the very least we are driving up the price for VGK.
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No, it isn't.
Gaudreau - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Monahan - Coleman
Lucic - Backlund - Pitlick
Ritchie - Richardson - Lewis

For 4 months. With Monahan not up to speed/regressed, it's weak.
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Old 11-03-2021, 04:04 PM   #127
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Ugh. I don't like that this is out there in case it falls through.

We were "mending fences" with Tkachuk leading up to this.
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Old 11-03-2021, 04:04 PM   #128
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Foligno got a first from Toronto and I bet they regret that payment. Taylor Hall only got a 2nd.

And Buffalo’s owner is cheap.
Lesser players than Tkachuk get 1st round picks as rentals all the time.

So if Buffalo wants an extra 1st ++, here's a way for them to make that happen.
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Old 11-03-2021, 04:04 PM   #129
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This whole thing makes no sense. A guy like Frank Seravalli is basically saying Vegas is in the driver's seat and keeps holding that opinion as if he has some kind of inside track on the details, but then a guy like Weekes says this is the package the Flames are offering. If the Flames are indeed offering this package, I don't see any possible way that the Flames are not in the driver's seat over Vegas. Vegas can't offer anything to top the Flames if Tkachuk is in the deal.

Regardless, one of these insiders is completely out of the loop or maybe both of them are
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Old 11-03-2021, 04:04 PM   #130
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If thats the offer I can see why its not done yet. I don't think Buffalo is interested in Tkachuk as the main piece (I know I wouldn't be). Strictly on a contractual basis.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, as an RFA, as long as they qualify him ($9m 2 years?), if he signs with another team, it's an offer sheet and they get crazy compensation don't they?
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Ugh. I don't like that this is out there in case it falls through.

We were "mending fences" with Tkachuk leading up to this.
Who told you this?
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Gaudreau - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Monahan - Coleman
Lucic - Backlund - Pitlick
Ritchie - Richardson - Lewis

For 4 months. With Monahan not up to speed/regressed, it's weak.
We can manage.

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That's a good sized price to pay, but it's worth it in my eyes. You then lock up Mangiapane and Gaudreau long term and we've then got our top two C's and top two LW's locked in place.
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Tkachuk
Zadorov
1st
Zary
Ruzicka or Phillips

Feels like the most Flames friendly combination of pieces based on that description.
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I think this hinges on who the prospects are.

Interested to see what happens in the next little while.
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Old 11-03-2021, 04:05 PM   #136
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I'm ok with Tkachuk going, but the adds seem like an awful lot.
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Ugh. I don't like that this is out there in case it falls through.

We were "mending fences" with Tkachuk leading up to this.
Maybe mending fences meant that Chucky would behave until they could trade him?
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Not a fan of that offer at all.
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This whole thing makes no sense. A guy like Frank Seravalli is basically saying Vegas is in the driver's seat and keeps holding that opinion as if he has some kind of inside track on the details, but then a guy like Weekes says this is the package the Flames are offering. If the Flames are indeed offering this package, I don't see any possible way that the Flames are not in the driver's seat over Vegas. Vegas can't offer anything to top the Flames if Tkachuk is in the deal.

Regardless, one of these insiders is completely out of the loop or maybe both of them are
I am beginning to think both are out of touch on this, but who really knows unless we/you are in the room when negotiations are happening.
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Old 11-03-2021, 04:06 PM   #140
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Regardless, one of these insiders is completely out of the loop or maybe both of them are
The only insider to believe here is Dreger. Stay tuned.
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