11-01-2021, 01:45 PM
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Wow, the hockey media sure are trying hard to distract me from my dislike of the Blackhawks by playing up everything I dislike about them.
... Yes, I know, they aren't comparable. But one is much louder and more self-congratulatory.
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11-01-2021, 01:48 PM
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#42
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First Line Centre
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I hope he does.
I live in Quebec City and it is a major hockey market. Unfortunately for us we will never get a team while Bettman is at the helm of things.
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11-01-2021, 01:51 PM
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#43
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
League is being pretty petty towards Rick Westhead too. Are avoiding letting him ask a question in the conference call even though he was the major reason it came to light.
edit: They are finally letting Westhead ask questions after LeBrun called them out on it.
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One of the best in the biz. Is there a clip of this?
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11-01-2021, 01:52 PM
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#44
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Bettman should be gone.
Everyone at the Blackhawks should be gone. All their players from 2010 should be gone.
All their AHL affiliate players, coaches and management should be gone.
Anyone who has played with Beach since in any league should be gone.
Am I doing this right?
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The Russian Olympic Committee had a similar win at all costs attitude, and even the corrupt, dictatorship-pandering IOC had the guts to do something about it!
Yes, for those whose culpability cannot be proven, it is appropriate for no penalty to be imposed. But when the evidence is as clear as it is in this case with respect to those who have been named, there is no excuse for such lack of leadership from the league.
Now I'm not advocating for Chicago to lose its franchise or something like that, but surely the penalty should be more than the penalty imposed on Arizona for a combine testing infraction.
Last edited by Macindoc; 11-01-2021 at 01:56 PM.
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11-01-2021, 01:57 PM
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#45
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I'll always appreciate what Bettman's done for the league, he turned the NHL from a joke of a sideshow into a proper sports entertainment business, and people forget how much he did to save many Canadian franchises from failing in the 90s. But he's absolutely tone-deaf when it comes to stuff like this.
He's a lawyer that only wants to think of the business angle. And it certainly doesn't help when his go-to guys like Campbell and Daly are incredibly arrogant and even more tone-deaf than he is
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11-01-2021, 02:14 PM
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Truculent!
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Bettman and his other crony came out today and said they have been recently in contact with Aliu and the HDA and his representative.
Guess what, he was lying.
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11-01-2021, 02:16 PM
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#47
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
Bettman and his other crony came out today and said they have been recently in contact with Aliu and the HDA and his representative.
Guess what, he was lying.
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A lawyer.... lying?
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11-01-2021, 02:26 PM
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I mean he has to retire eventually right? Maybe he just says screw it and resigns. Gary doesn't seem the type to care about a tarnished reputation IMO.
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11-01-2021, 02:33 PM
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Franchise Player
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Whoever the new commissioner is will still do the owners' bidding. That's what a commissioner does.
The owners are obviously quite comfortable with Gary representing them.
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11-01-2021, 02:33 PM
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#50
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Slightly right of left of center
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on here usually, resign means re-sign... but lately the word has been used in its right context.
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11-01-2021, 02:35 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by joejoe3
A lawyer.... lying?

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Funny, except Meiselas is a lawyer as well.
I’m betting the NHL talked to someone who they can argue was AA’s “rep”. This has happened on this file before.
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11-01-2021, 02:35 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Whoever the new commissioner is will still do the owners' bidding. That's what a commissioner does.
The owners are obviously quite comfortable with Gary representing them.
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You know that's not a blanket excuse of decisions right?
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11-01-2021, 02:37 PM
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#53
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Gary Bettman's attitude towards the bhawks situation is a direct reflection of how his bosses feel about it.
Point those pitchforks in that direction.
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11-01-2021, 02:38 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by nik-
You know that's not a blanket excuse of decisions right?
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It means the owners are happy with the direction the NHL chose regarding this incident.
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11-01-2021, 02:39 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
The problem is that after how many years, people still haven't figured out that Gary Bettman is a lawyer, not a PR person. They keep asking him questions and getting upset when they get lawyer answers vs PR answers.
It's crazy. People don't want to talk to PR people, because they want "the real truth" but they also seem to never like "the real truth" when a non-PR person says it.
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Dealing with the media and PR is a large part of his job. And he is bad at it.
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11-01-2021, 02:42 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by btimbit
I'll always appreciate what Bettman's done for the league, he turned the NHL from a joke of a sideshow into a proper sports entertainment business, and people forget how much he did to save many Canadian franchises from failing in the 90s. But he's absolutely tone-deaf when it comes to stuff like this.
He's a lawyer that only wants to think of the business angle. And it certainly doesn't help when his go-to guys like Campbell and Daly are incredibly arrogant and even more tone-deaf than he is
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Bettman's performance is wildly over-rated. Compare his performance to the other big 4 sports and you could maybe argue MLB as somewhat comparable to the NHL in performance but the NBA and NFL franchise values and league exposure have grown exponentially bigger compared to the NHL. NHL has been a non-entity in US nation wide coverage for a decade until this year.
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11-01-2021, 02:44 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Bettman's performance is wildly over-rated. Compare his performance to the other big 4 sports and you could maybe argue MLB as somewhat comparable to the NHL in performance but the NBA and NFL franchise values and league exposure have grown exponentially bigger compared to the NHL. NHL has been a non-entity in US nation wide coverage for a decade until this year.
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Yeah, hockey was much more relevant here pre-1990 than it is now.
The fact that Gretzky and Messier played for Indianapolis helps though.
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11-01-2021, 02:50 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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I don't know why anyone would celebrate Bettman for increasing revenues and franchise values as a fan... I get why the owners like him but I don't understand fans celebrating that especially in small CDN markets, he has shown time and time again that all he cares about is making money for the owners, which is fine it's his job but as a Canadian if you think that means anything other than it getting more and more expensive to attend or watch games and loosening our country's hold on the NHL by moving the balance of power of the league south where there are more eyeballs and pockets, your head is in the sand.
If it wasn't him it would be somebody else doing the same, but he's extra unlikeable because he's such a GD gremlin without an ounce of self-awareness or care for what anybody else thinks about him and a go eff yourself attitude
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11-01-2021, 02:50 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Bettman's performance is wildly over-rated. Compare his performance to the other big 4 sports and you could maybe argue MLB as somewhat comparable to the NHL in performance but the NBA and NFL franchise values and league exposure have grown exponentially bigger compared to the NHL. NHL has been a non-entity in US nation wide coverage for a decade until this year.
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Not an even comparison. The NHL was on the verge of disappearing in some cities including Calgary, so it was a matter of survival, not growth, for a number of years. I do think basketball has the best commissioner going in Stern. The NFL is a silly comparison though - I don’t know who could actually fail running that monster.
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11-01-2021, 02:57 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Not an even comparison. The NHL was on the verge of disappearing in some cities including Calgary, so it was a matter of survival, not growth, for a number of years. I do think basketball has the best commissioner going in Stern. The NFL is a silly comparison though - I don’t know who could actually fail running that monster.
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NBA commissioner has been Adam Silver since 2014, but I agree that league seems to be pretty well run IMO.
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