2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

He's literally on pace for 47 points right now.

Well, it’s not that close. It’s well above it.


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[stemit14]

If the eichel trade does not happen, can anyone suggest some players that could be available for trade that the flames should target? Obviously no player would be as big of an acquisition as eichel. I think the flames could target someone to replace Ritchie on the Dube-Mangiapane line. I think it needs to be someone that’s got offensive upside and good pace.

Not sure who to target or who could be available either now or by the trade deadline. I kind of envision a Lee Stempniak-type of player or a Kris Versteeg type… a fairly reliable depth scorer who could fit in easily with two young guys. Is there anyone like that who could be a fit?


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[JurassicTunga12]

Still wouldn't mind the Flames taking a chance on Kravtsov.

[dammage79]

Kravstov for sure. Put him where Ritchie is or Lewis.

Imagine instant chemistry with Monahan on "the 4th line"

Don't have to move mountains to fit into the cap..
Young cost controlled RFA..

[robbie111]

Our center that topped out at 82 pts once in his career just like Eichel, is starting to get healthy again so apparently we can shoot for the moon with him. How about a teams best center and best young defenceman and 2 1st rounders for Moneyhands.

Seriously Eichel is so overrated it's crazy.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by robbie111

Our center that topped out at 82 pts once in his career just like Eichel, is starting to get healthy again so apparently we can shoot for the moon with him. How about a teams best center and best young defenceman and 2 1st rounders for Moneyhands.

Seriously Eichel is so overrated it's crazy.

Sean Monahan hasn’t scored a goal from further than 15 feet away since he was a rookie.

Eichel can score from 40 feet away with no screen.

They’re not comparable players.

[robbie111]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Sean Monahan hasn’t scored a goal from further than 15 feet away since he was a rookie.

Eichel can score from 40 feet away with no screen.

They’re not comparable players.

True, obviously Monahan is healthy and playing and Eichel is still injured with a risky surgery pending. Very different indeed.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by robbie111

Our center that topped out at 82 pts once in his career just like Eichel, is starting to get healthy again so apparently we can shoot for the moon with him. How about a teams best center and best young defenceman and 2 1st rounders for Moneyhands.

Seriously Eichel is so overrated it's crazy.

Lol I don't even know what to say here. If you seriously think Monahan is in the same stratosphere as Eichel - then there is no use arguing with you.

Fyi - when Monahan scored 82 points. Other teammates: Gaudreau 99, Lindholm 78, Tkachuk 77

When Eichel scored 82 points, next highest on his team was Reinhart with 65 and Skinner with 63.

That alone should tell you how much help Monahan has had versus Eichel.

[robbie111]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Lol I don't even know what to say here. If you seriously think Monahan is in the same stratosphere as Eichel - then there is no use arguing with you.

Fyi - when Monahan scored 82 points. Other teammates: Gaudreau 99, Lindholm 78, Tkachuk 77

When Eichel scored 82 points, next highest on his team was Reinhart with 65 and Skinner with 63.

That alone should tell you how much help Monahan has had versus Eichel.

This is in response to the Eichel trade thread where posters were considering trading a healthy Gaudreau ++ for and injured Eichel. So I just pointed out that Eichel has never topped 82 pts in a season. You are all seriously overrating him. That's not on me, that's on you.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by robbie111

This is in response to the Eichel trade thread where posters were considering trading a healthy Gaudreau ++ for and injured Eichel. So I just pointed out that Eichel has never topped 82 pts in a season. You are all seriously overrating him. That's not on me, that's on you.

He’s consistently right around PPG though, every year, including last year. Plus he’s controlled albeit at a hefty salary. Gaudreau still has extension question marks. A lot has to do with his intentions. That said, Gaudreau’s very strict MNTC has kicked in so this is probably all moot.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by stemit14

If the eichel trade does not happen, can anyone suggest some players that could be available for trade that the flames should target? Obviously no player would be as big of an acquisition as eichel. I think the flames could target someone to replace Ritchie on the Dube-Mangiapane line. I think it needs to be someone that’s got offensive upside and good pace.

Not sure who to target or who could be available either now or by the trade deadline. I kind of envision a Lee Stempniak-type of player or a Kris Versteeg type… a fairly reliable depth scorer who could fit in easily with two young guys. Is there anyone like that who could be a fit?


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Fillip Forsberg could be available around the trade deadline, depending on how Nashville does.Obviously he won't play on the 3rd line but there will be a trickle down effect. I'm pretty sure he would cost an arm and a leg though.

As a cheaper option Jarnkrok could be an option for the 3rd line, again depending on Seattle around the trade deadline.

Maybe Kessel from Arizona(but I don't see a fit). Hertl is a pipe dream, as I doubt the Sharks would trade him within the division. Also I think DeBrusk might be someone the Bruins are looking to move on from, but I'm not sure how he fits.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Fillip Forsberg could be available around the trade deadline, depending on how Nashville does.Obviously he won't play on the 3rd line but there will be a trickle down effect. I'm pretty sure he would cost an arm and a leg though.

As a cheaper option Jarnkrok could be an option for the 3rd line, again depending on Seattle around the trade deadline.

Maybe Kessel from Arizona(but I don't see a fit). Hertl is a pipe dream, as I doubt the Sharks would trade him within the division. Also I think DeBrusk might be someone the Bruins are looking to move on from, but I'm not sure how he fits.

Jarnkrok is a good example. Or donskoi could be too if Seattle is out of it by then.


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[Roof-Daddy]

If Eichel goes somewhere else, how about a Sutter/Toffoli reunion?

He's off to a slow start, but put up 28 goals in 52 games last year. Plus his contract isn't an albatross, only two more season with a $4.25M AAV.

[Tbull8]

Anyone saying Eichel is overrated hasn't watched him outside of the couple times he played the flames. Oh where he also dominated us? The guy is a top 5-7 center in the league, and will be playing with a chip on his shoulder after all of this

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Anyone saying Eichel is overrated hasn't watched him outside of the couple times he played the flames. Oh where he also dominated us? The guy is a top 5-7 center in the league, and will be playing with a chip on his shoulder after all of this

I think the problem isn't so much that he is over-rated as it is that the effects of his injury and pending surgery are under-estimated. He will likely be less dominant after his surgery, or maybe not play at all. None of us know what kind of player Eichel will be post-surgery, but I doubt he will be a top 5-7 centre in the NHL again.

A lot of people are going on as if the team trading for Eichel will be getting pre-injury Eichel. They won't be, and the problem in consummating a trade is that teams aren't really sure what they'll be getting, while Buffalo insists on getting value equivalent to what pre-injury Eichel would have been worth.

[Canada 02]

If Vegas loses out on Eichel, I could see them going after Toews or Kane.
I think it is inevitable, that Chicago and the players would want to mutually parts ways.

As for re-building teams, do you try to capitalize on the Eichel market, to see if those proposed trade assets could come your way? The Kings and Kopitar would be a great example. Anze NMC would make it difficult, but maybe he waives to go to a team like Vegas or the Rangers

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by robbie111

True, obviously Monahan is healthy and playing and Eichel is still injured with a risky surgery pending. Very different indeed.

Come on man, Eichel is a much better player than Monahan.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Come on man, Eichel is a much better player than Monahan.

He was. And until proven otherwise post surgery, thats all it is.

Yourself and others may want to believe he wont miss a step but in my opinion, that's hopes and dreams type stuff.

If anything it's going to take two years for him to get back to normal. I fully expect his 1st full time season of playing to be full of hesitation, and limited ice time and the Kawhi game management special.

He's not going to come out of the box like brand new.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

What about bringing in patty Kane? What would he cost us? He makes quite a bit but he would look great on our top line. Tachuck and zadorov for salary? A pick or two to even it out?

[1_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

What about bringing in patty Kane? What would he cost us? He makes quite a bit but he would look great on our top line. Tachuck and zadorov for salary? A pick or two to even it out?

#### Patrick Kane!