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[Yamer]

I know people like it, but Spittin Chicklets is a good case study on the current temperature of hockey culture. Frat boy type stuff that transports me back to high school.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Hockey is a weird sport full of both homophobia, and bromantic male bonding. One of the teams I played for had certain players that would C@$% slap each other and P%$$ on other players in the shower. Fortunately we had a non hazing policy but humans are gross, weird and unpredictable.

Sometimes I'm incredibly thankful I never played organized hockey. This stuff is disgusting.

[djsFlames]

Late teens/early twenties men are extremely immature, speaking from experience. What they say about girls being 7-8 years ahead of guys in maturity is absolutely true. So you're talking about a group of kids with adult bodies and the brain maturity of 13 year olds fueled by testosterone crammed into a locker room/bus/hotel. Yeah, it was never any wonder why hockey was/is what it was like off the ice growing up tbh.

Still no place for homophobia, humiliation or abuse. But often times the adults are more focused on the game itself to even care, let alone police what goes on.

This is exactly why we need the people in positions of power and authority in the game to educate themselves on these matters.

[Badger Bob]

[MOD EDIT] Absolute incendiary garbage. We don't want this kind of blatantly offensive crap on the Board. You're done.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

[MOD EDIT] Absolute incendiary garbage. We don't want this kind of blatantly offensive crap on the Board. You're done.

Is that an attempt at humour? If so, it failed miserably and is the exact problem we are discussing and trying to eradicate. If it is sarcastic it missed badly.

If it is neither, you are part of the problem and should grow up and feel some shame.

[Titan2]

Also, this post is terrible is on point today!

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Sometimes I'm incredibly thankful I never played organized hockey. This stuff is disgusting.

Did you play football, soccer, run track, wrestle or any other competitive sport when you were younger? If so how was everyone treated by those sports?

[mennoknight]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, Tom T Hall but he’s dead.

That's how he got to Memphis!

[klikitiklik]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

[MOD EDIT] Absolute incendiary garbage. We don't want this kind of blatantly offensive crap on the Board. You're done.

WTF is wrong with you? We won't stand for intolerance in here

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by Titan2

Is that an attempt at humour? If so, it failed miserably and is the exact problem we are discussing and trying to eradicate. If it is sarcastic it missed badly.

If it is neither, you are part of the problem and should grow up and feel some shame.

[MOD EDIT] Absolute incendiary garbage. We don't want this kind of blatantly offensive crap on the Board. You're done.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Late teens/early twenties men are extremely immature, speaking from experience. What they say about girls being 7-8 years ahead of guys in maturity is absolutely true. So you're talking about a group of kids with adult bodies and the brain maturity of 13 year olds fueled by testosterone crammed into a locker room/bus/hotel.

For this very reason, there's something to be said for encouraging 18-year-old males to do a hitch in the army. I never served myself, but several of my friends did, including some that were probably heading for hard prison time or Skid Row if they didn't straighten out. The armed forces showed them how to act like grown men instead of juvenile delinquents. And while learning that, they got to camp out, play with firearms, and make things go boom! What's not to like for a rowdy older teen?

Hockey can't be the army, obviously. But maybe hockey culture could benefit if it spent more energy on teaching and modelling good conduct instead of indulging bad conduct.

[Strange Brew]

Calling people gay as an insult is not unique to hockey.

Nor are all organized hockey teams full of homophobic bullies.

IMO bigger problem is the type of sheltered, put on a pedestal life that so many elite athletes experience starting at such a young age. They simply don’t learn the lessons that so many other people learn through dealing with challenges of everyday life.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Sometimes I'm incredibly thankful I never played organized hockey. This stuff is disgusting.

I played hockey until my last year of high school and there was a lot of really bad stuff that was done inside and outside of the dressing room in order to be accepted to the team. The positive is that the bonds that form are unlike any others but there are so many negatives looking back at things.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

For this very reason, there's something to be said for encouraging 18-year-old males to do a hitch in the army. I never served myself, but several of my friends did, including some that were probably heading for hard prison time or Skid Row if they didn't straighten out. The armed forces showed them how to act like grown men instead of juvenile delinquents. And while learning that, they got to camp out, play with firearms, and make things go boom! What's not to like for a rowdy older teen?

Hockey can't be the army, obviously. But maybe hockey culture could benefit if it spent more energy on teaching and modelling good conduct instead of indulging bad conduct.

We want to get rid of toxic masculinity, homophobia and sexual assault cover ups and you’re suggesting military service?!?

Please tell me you’re kidding.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

[MOD EDIT] Absolute incendiary garbage. We don't want this kind of blatantly offensive crap on the Board. You're done.

Go back to the shadow.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

[MOD EDIT] Absolute incendiary garbage. We don't want this kind of blatantly offensive crap on the Board. You're done.

Alright enough is enough. Can we get a mod to ban this clown? You are the problem. Do some self reflecting and grow up.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I know people like it, but Spittin Chicklets is a good case study on the current temperature of hockey culture. Frat boy type stuff that transports me back to high school.

I listened to half an episode with Lucic once a few years ago, and the way they were talking about women made me turn it off as fast as possible.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

We want to get rid of toxic masculinity, homophobia and sexual assault cover ups and you’re suggesting military service?!?

Please tell me you’re kidding.

You obviously know nothing about the military if you think that way. But then, you use the phrase ‘toxic masculinity’, which in my abundant experience is only ever used by people who think masculinity per se is toxic; so I'm not surprised that you are proud of your ignorance.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

You obviously know nothing about the military if you think that way. But then, you use the phrase ‘toxic masculinity’, which in my abundant experience is only ever used by people who think masculinity per se is toxic; so I'm not surprised that you are proud of your ignorance.

Lol

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Lol

Oh, that's a convincing answer.

So your only argument is bigotry? Nice to know.