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Old 10-29-2021, 02:33 PM   #181
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I really dont know. I definitely dont think its not their fault and I really dont want to get into 'victim blaming' but the victim is going to have to stand up and speak at some point.

I guess the ambiguity is what makes these cases so difficult. I just have a really hard time with letting it slide and not only that, but giving the guy a reference, from a reputable NHL franchise to coach a High School hockey team!

Fox in the henhouse...
You have to consider though the society we have lived in is only now starting to change. Used to be a man could rape his wife and that was fine. It was nobody's business but theirs.

I'm not trying to defend anyone here, trust me on that. I just don't think it's that unbelievable that no one would say anything. Even 10 years ago, which doesn't sound that long ago, is well before the Me Too movement became viral. Did you know it started in 2006 but didn't become viral until 2017? Remember, the guy left rather than getting investigated so to the team, there was only ever an accusation which was rug-swept. Why wouldn't they give a guy a reference? If there's no investigation, there's no proof.
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Old 10-29-2021, 02:36 PM   #182
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Remember how freakin' happy we all were when Chicago beat the Canucks in those POs?
Yeah it’s a tough pill for me to be honest. Chicago has been my second favourite team since I was a kid and my parents took the family to see the last regular season game in Chicago stadium. I was hooked, that team was great, with Roenick, chelios, suter, belfour list goes on. I was hooked. Then some dark years but I stayed a fan, cheered hard in 2010, 2013 and 2015 cups.

It would take a lot to take my fandom of the Hawks away, but this did it. It’s all tainted for me, years and years of cheering tainted. I can’t do it for this organization, they are dead to me.

Thank goodness I can still cheer for my number 1 team, and be proud that with all of the Flames organizations faults, they handled a tough situation with Peters promptly, with class, and has been, in general, a very professionally run organization.
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Maybe. None of us know until we're in those sorts of high pressure situations. I'm a person who tries not to judge too harshly. I'm not saying he's clean or didn't do anything wrong, he certainly did, and he did deserve a severe punishment, but I don't think it means he's automatically a monster.

There is room for two thoughts in my head at the same time. There's room for shades of gray and nuance. That's all.
I agree with all of what you said in general, but Quenneville, according to Kyle Beach (who seemed pretty honest and emotional) directly told him that winning the Stanley Cup is more important than sexual assault. Did you watch the video, CaliPanthersfan?

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Old 10-29-2021, 10:06 PM   #184
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Remember how freakin' happy we all were when Chicago beat the Canucks in those POs?
And I'm still happy.
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