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Old 10-29-2021, 01:29 PM   #501
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Yikes- that might not be good for Fehr… that could lead to end of days kinda thing.
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Old 10-29-2021, 01:30 PM   #502
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Man, with the Hawks mgt you had the (terrible) argument they were protecting the team and cup run somehow and that they had some sort of bureaucratic employment obligations to not just fire Aldrich. Or something (like I say it's a baaaad argument).

Who was the NHLPA supposed to looking out for aside from Beach? And other players?
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:02 PM   #503
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https://twitter.com/JShannonhl/statu...7uI8HR1-w&s=19

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Old 10-29-2021, 03:06 PM   #504
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Reposting something I wrote in the quinneville thread as it probably belongs here.

Yeah it’s a tough pill for me to be honest. Chicago has been my second favourite team since I was a kid and my parents took the family to see the last regular season game in Chicago stadium. I was hooked, that team was great, with Roenick, chelios, suter, belfour list goes on. I was hooked. Then some dark years but I stayed a fan, cheered hard in 2010, 2013 and 2015 cups.

It would take a lot to take my fandom of the Hawks away, but this did it. It’s all tainted for me, years and years of cheering tainted. I can’t do it for this organization, they are dead to me.

Thank goodness I can still cheer for my number 1 team, and be proud that with all of the Flames organizations faults, they handled a tough situation with Peters promptly, with class, and has been, in general, a very professionally run organization.
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Edit: I should also mention that he was fired by CBC a few days later.
Bahahaha the pen flip at the end

This is awesome, I’ve never seen it
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:37 PM   #506
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Bahahaha the pen flip at the end

This is awesome, I’ve never seen it
As a Flyers fan and my brother a Habs fan we both wanted to kill CBC. And then CBC replaced Hodge with the ass kisser MacLean and ruined HNIC.
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Elliotte Friedman apologizes for his coverage of the story. Says it wasn't about losing access or Sportsnet being the rights holder, but regrettable choices on prioritizing his workload.

https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thou...ief-statement/



Dave Hodge rightfully nuked the media yesterday. The disparity in coverage between organizations over the last year especially was very evident and pointed out throughout by many fans.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453757062811426821
31 thoughts all summer and not one about Beach. That’s some serious prioritizing.
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Elliotte Friedman apologizes for his coverage of the story. Says it wasn't about losing access or Sportsnet being the rights holder, but regrettable choices on prioritizing his workload.

https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thou...ief-statement/



Dave Hodge rightfully nuked the media yesterday. The disparity in coverage between organizations over the last year especially was very evident and pointed out throughout by many fans.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453757062811426821
Workload. Ok then.
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Old 10-29-2021, 04:41 PM   #509
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I had no idea Dave Hodge was so awesome. What a beauty.
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Old 10-29-2021, 04:52 PM   #510
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Tear it the #### down. Anyone associated with the NHL/NHLPA hierarchy back then gets turfed now. And Black Sox the 2010 Blackhawks from existence.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:01 PM   #511
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Edit: I should also mention that he was fired by CBC a few days later.
I watched that happen live

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So, I've been listening to podcasts at work all day. I highly recommend Steve Dangle's from October 27 (he was supposed to release another today with Rick Westhead, but I haven't had time to listen yet).


A few thoughts, some of which I've expressed, some of which occurred to me after others have mentioned them:


Who failed in this: Absolutely everyone.


The NHL, in refusing to investigate this, in continuing to kind of sweep things like this under the rug; after Fleury, after Kennedy, after Aliu, and after who knows how many more?


Gary Bettman, in failing to immediately tell Joel Quenneville and Kevin Chevaldayoff they were on leave until he talked to them. For actually allowing a game where Joel Quenneville coached 3 hours after this came public. Absolutely terrible.


The Florida Panthers, for not doing the same thing with Quenneville - place him on leave until you figure out what's going to happen. And then not having him available for the media after the game was absolutely cowardly on all their parts.



The Winnipeg Jets, for doing the same to Kevin Cheveldayoff - you let him represent your team.


The fact that Bettman "forced" Quenneville to resign rather than be fired, and then didn't do the same to Chevy. Yes, I read his "account." But the fact remains that Chevy was in that room for that meeting. At the very least, he knew the broad strokes. Yet he said nothing when Aldrich celebrated on the ice, got his day with the CUP, got his severance pay, and Chevy said nothing. Aldrich went to jail, and Beach sued the Blackhawks, and Chevy said nothing. Terrible.


Jonathan Toews, for the most painful PR moment in a long time, talking how much he likes and respects Stan Bowman and Al MacIsaac. Now is definitely not the time and place.


And Toews, Kane, Ladd, and Keith are cowards, and they should be embarrased to play a game in the NHL right now. What a coincidence that the last four active players from that team knew nothing! What are the odds of that, and of Kane and Toews being in COVID protocol right when this came out?


The only players to admit to knowing what was going on, no longer have any skin in the game.



As for Marc Bergevin, I'm aware that he was not named in the report. But as Steve Dangle said, and apparently someone tweeted, he was the Director of Player Personnel. If he never had any clue what had happened at some point, then he was completely incompetent at his job.



The media, for letting a couple of guys run with it, while the rest of you stayed silent.

And the fans, who will go on supporting people who don't deserve that support, but because they share allegiance, it's all okay.
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My apologies if this is already being talked about somewhere else. Wow!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1454128317427326979
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lets burn the whole thing down. Screw this toxic culture.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:19 PM   #516
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My apologies if this is already being talked about somewhere else. Wow!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1454128317427326979

Apparently the GM of Wilkes-Barre at the time was Bill Guerin, who is not only the Wild GM right now, but also the Assistant GM of the US Olympic Team, from which Bowman just resigned.


And apparently a complaint was filed through SafeSport because it is the US Olympic team, which means if it wasn't, we likely wouldn't be hearing about it at all.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:21 PM   #517
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I hope we see a huge wave of these now. That didn’t come out right. But you know what I mean
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Billy Guerin will be done pretty quick if the above is true.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:29 PM   #519
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Billy Guerin will be done pretty quick if the above is true.
Which he should be. His team should be calling for his head.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:48 PM   #520
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Honestly, I think at this point I am ok with Quenville, Towes, Kane, and Keith are omitted from the HHOF. That is the only thing you can take away from them at this point.
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