Here we go again in Vancouver

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Most of Alberta's "junkies" arent even from Alberta.

Ummm...do you have any source for that blanket statement?

[SpitFire40]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

they do have mountains in quebec

Thos are mountains?? Looks like the Okanagan Valley to me in a way..

[Scrambler]

Originally Posted by SpitFire40

Thos are mountains?? Looks like the Okanagan Valley to me in a way..

Correct! What is depicted in that picture are not mountains according to Britannica :

http://www.britannica.com/ebi/articl...i%22Britannica

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Scrambler

Correct! What is depicted in that picture are not mountains according to Britannica :

http://www.britannica.com/ebi/articl...i%22Britannica

God you guys annoying...

The highest point in Quebec is Mont d'Iberville, at 5322 feet. It is situated on the border of

that more than satisfies the definition.
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[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Ummm...do you have any source for that blanket statement?

i dont need one, i think it common knowledge that most homeless in Alberta come from eastern canada in search of a job - but with the lack of housing dont have anywhere to live. Some of them tend to pick up bad habits or already brought these habits with them.....

winter hits and they move off to the mild climate and better welfare payments of the west coast....

Hardly a blanket statement and has been an issue in Alberta for decades. I am also not pretending that native albertans (if there is such a thing anymore) dont also have those problems, just like not all junkies in vancouver are from alberta....
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[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Scrambler

I'm afraid there is no 'mountain' east of the Rockies high enough to meet IOC standards. There needs to be at least 1000ft elevation from top to base for an Olympic ski event. That's the biggest issue against any city in Eastern Canada or USA from hosting winter games ever again.

Standards have changed greatly since Lake Placid.

Don't think that those stats are correct. Whiteface (Lake Placid)'s vertical is well over 3000', Tremblant is over 2000', Jay Peak is over 2000' (great hill), Mt St Anne is over 2000', Marble is over 1500'.

To Compare, Lake Louise is 3250', St Moritz is 3800'.

[nieuwy-89]

One of the most serious threats to Alberta's boom is the labour shortage. One of the most likely causes of a labour shortage in Alberta, is because they are screaming for skilled labourers and tradespeople in BC.

If these protesters and complainers would put as much time and energy into improving their lives as they do in giving this country a black eye...we would ALL be better off.

[Mr.Coffee]

Look, just to clarify because my comments seem to have been taken in a manner which I don't want to be projected. I'm well aware that homelessness is a major problem and that relocation isn't necessarily a legitimate option for most.

My main point in saying that was that I believe there are more than one way to get around this issue about the Olympics, and I honestly don't think going to protest is going to do a damn thing about it. It's called timing, and I'm not sure whether or not these people were protesting when Vancouver was vying to get these games- but that was the time to do it, not now when the money and resources have already been committed.

My main idea was that there are ways around this problem other than protesting and maybe leaving is an answer if your looking for cheaper housing- which a lot of them are. I'm well aware of the depths and complexities that involve homelessness, and I'm sorry if my comments seemed ignorant, but the truth is that Saskatchewan DOES have cheaper housing. If that's your only issue, and you can afford a house there but not in Vancouver, why wouldn't you instead of being homeless in Vancouver and bitching about it to a bunch of people that can't and won't do anything about your situation?

[Scrambler]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Don't think that those stats are correct. Whiteface (Lake Placid)'s vertical is well over 3000', Tremblant is over 2000', Jay Peak is over 2000' (great hill), Mt St Anne is over 2000', Marble is over 1500'.

To Compare, Lake Louise is 3250', St Moritz is 3800'.

After looking in to it more I believe you're right that I'm wrong. I remember hearing that regarding 'hill top to bottom elevation' standards at some point, but I must have misunderstood.

Do you know if there have been FIS World Cups out East in recent years? It would make sense if they if they had the same standards as the IOC.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Scrambler

After looking in to it more I believe you're right that I'm wrong. I remember hearing that regarding 'hill top to bottom elevation' standards at some point, but I must have misunderstood.

Do you know if there have been FIS World Cups out East in recent years? It would make sense if they if they had the same standards as the IOC.

I know Tremblant is not far off. I was there when they were building a platform at the summit ('96) to try to lengthen the course to qualify. I think the issue is not with the vertical but the time to complete the course is not long enough. They had to use the north side as the base is lower than the south.

Don't know about recent downhill/super g type events out east. Doubt it though. I am more of a big mountain/free skiing type of guy and don't follow racing. Although I did beat a member of the jr US ski team in a GS race when I was 15.

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

i dont need one, i think it common knowledge that most homeless in Alberta come from eastern canada in search of a job - but with the lack of housing dont have anywhere to live. Some of them tend to pick up bad habits or already brought these habits with them.....

winter hits and they move off to the mild climate and better welfare payments of the west coast....

Hardly a blanket statement and has been an issue in Alberta for decades. I am also not pretending that native albertans (if there is such a thing anymore) dont also have those problems, just like not all junkies in vancouver are from alberta....

Sorry, Mel, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Do you work in addictions, homelessness, etc?

A couple of things:
-homelessness was huge in Calgary/Alberta before any of our past "big booms"
-yes, some people move here but a lot of the time they come here for a job already in place
-yes, there are some that come to Alta w/out a job. However, it is extremely hard not to....when Alberta is basically screaming for people to come and take those jobs. If they didn't, there would be an even greater shortage of workers in Alberta
-It is NOT easy to just pick up and move. Whether you hitchhike all the way or not (which itself is fairly dangerous), you are ignoring the fact that a lot of homeless people don't have money to move. However "cheap" you do it, it still costs money.
-there were addictions in alberta before, during and after any of the booms or busts.
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[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

but the truth is that Saskatchewan DOES have cheaper housing. If that's your only issue, and you can afford a house there but not in Vancouver, why wouldn't you instead of being homeless in Vancouver and bitching about it to a bunch of people that can't and won't do anything about your situation?

Hey Mr. Coffee, fair enough, but you have to remember that its not just so easy for a lot of people to pick up and move. They don't literally have the $$ to. That is one of the challenges of being homeless. Yes, they can hitchhike etc...but that is unsafe, who knows when you will make it there, and that still costs $$ (food, toiletries, etc). Also, a lot of people may not move to Sask if they don't have a job there. As well, you saw the assistance rates I quoted....could you move on that? Let alone feed, house and clothe yourself?

[GeoffSK]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

My main idea was that there are ways around this problem other than protesting and maybe leaving is an answer if your looking for cheaper housing- which a lot of them are. I'm well aware of the depths and complexities that involve homelessness, and I'm sorry if my comments seemed ignorant, but the truth is that Saskatchewan DOES have cheaper housing. If that's your only issue, and you can afford a house there but not in Vancouver, why wouldn't you instead of being homeless in Vancouver and bitching about it to a bunch of people that can't and won't do anything about your situation?

We have enough people in Saskatchewan that bitch and moan.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by GeoffSK

We have enough people in Saskatchewan that bitch and moan.

Yeah, Roughrider fans are annoying I agree.

[GeoffSK]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yeah, Roughrider fans are annoying I agree.

Yeah, and I'm one of them. lol.