[Rumour] Seravalli: Eichel resolution expected in coming days; VGK and Buffalo talks very active

[psyang]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

No, upper body injury.

Yeah, a broken heart that his good friend Eichel isn't joining the Flames

[bigrangy]

off topic, but theodore is bad

He's Seth Jones before everyone realized Seth Jones was Seth Jones

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

off topic, but theodore is bad

He's Seth Jones before everyone realized Seth Jones was Seth Jones

Couldnt be at more opposite ends of the spectrum

[ComixZone]

Theodore has been bad this season.

…but 6 or so games hardly erase the years worth of strong play.

[activeStick]

Many Vegas D have been bad this season

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453729901903679496

[Enoch Root]

it's amazing how defensemen can look worse when the team is worse

[mile]

https://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-tra...ympics~2310625

Dreger: Earlier this week trade talks heated up with the Sabres, but now seem to have cooled down a little bit. But that can change with one simple phone call. Hope is a trade is made before grievance is made and Eichel can have his surgery early next week.

Dreger doesn't name any team, but the user Volica from HF says this is consistent with what he heard from his source about the Flames coming "####ing close" earlier this week and Buffalo wanting to avoid grievance.

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/180824206/

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Coach

Eichel and McDavid in the Pacific? No, thank you.

Eichel and McDavid in the BoA? Yes, please.

I wonder if Eichel would take the constant comparison to McDavid as a challenge or something that would drive him crazy?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Fire

I wonder if Eichel would take the constant comparison to McDavid as a challenge or something that would drive him crazy?

Seems like the type of surly guy who would let it drive him into a pure rage fury of goal scoring.

[stemit14]

How would everyone feel about this kind of deal?

To Calgary:
Eichel ($1 million retained)

To Buffalo:
Coronato/Zary
Pelletier
2022 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2023 1st round pick (conditional)
Zadorov

Conditions on the 2023 1st round pick are dependent on Eichel’s performance and health. If he puts up 70+ points in 2022-2023, it’s a first round pick. If not, it’s a 2nd round pick + 3rd round pick.

This deal puts limited protection on the 2022 pick - if the flames season went off the rails it could be a pick between 4 and 10. That’s enticing for Buffalo. Furthermore, the 2023 pick is only tied to Eichel’s performance and not the performance of the flames. There would be the potential for eichel to put up 70 points and the flames still miss the playoffs just like Buffalo always has with eichel scoring like a top centre… especially if the flames lost players like Gaudreau and/or tkachuk in the offseason.

To me, this is a huge haul for eichel. Maybe even too much (I think it would be hard to Vegas to beat this offer). But it gets him without gutting the flames’ roster as it is now mid-season. The flames would also be getting some salary retention so that inflates the price a bit as well. In the offseason, one of Gaudreau or tkachuk will likely have to go to make room for eichel and for mangiapane’s raise. Likely tkachuk would be the one to go. He could be traded to recoup some assets.

If eichel is ready before the playoffs this year, the flames may have a player or two that is nursing injuries that could be put on LTIR to make room for him under the cap. If not, the flames could be forced to trade a player like Monahan near the TDL. At which point his value would be higher than it is right now even if he does not produce like he used to. Big centres usually have an inflated price tag by the TDL. If Monahan does not need to be traded this year, it can wait till the offseason.

The ideal line up come playoffs (lines are a total guess)

Gaudreau-Eichel-Lindholm/Monahan
Tkachuk-Monahan/Lindholm-coleman
Mangiapane-Dube-Lucic
Pitlick-Backlund-Lewis

Too many centres, I know, but is that really a bad thing?


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[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Fire

I wonder if Eichel would take the constant comparison to McDavid as a challenge or something that would drive him crazy?

I would sure hope Eichel has some of that MJ “take it personal” Crazy streak in him.

I would hope he’d view McDavid as a the ultimate challenge, and that it would drive him crazy to beat him.

That would be amazing.

[1qqaaz]

I think Theodore is a top 7 or so defenseman in the world.
And his contract is fantastic.

If I were Vegas, I would be very hesitant to trade someone like that.

[Heavy Jack]

Today’s the day… Eichel to the flames… just feels like it’s the day.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Theodore is a top 7 or so defenseman in the world.
And his contract is fantastic.

If I were Vegas, I would be very hesitant to trade someone like that.

I think with them extending Whitecloud yesterday we may see this move from Vegas. Calgary can’t match that.

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by stemit14

How would everyone feel about this kind of deal?

To Calgary:
Eichel ($1 million retained)

To Buffalo:
Coronato/Zary
Pelletier
2022 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2023 1st round pick (conditional)
Zadorov

I just don't see how we get a deal done without including someone like Dube or Mangiapane and Valimaki or Kylington

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Today’s the day… Eichel to the flames… just feels like it’s the day.

I said that last night. Today feels like the day we get Eichel.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Zoller

I just don't see how we get a deal done without including someone like Dube or Mangiapane and Valimaki or Kylington

I have this feeling if Calgary gets this done it’s,

Hanifin+Monahan+Zary/Pelletier+2022 1st and maybe even another piece

That’s a heavy price

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Would telekinesis help in this situation?

I can't see how. Remember on May the 4th the NHL put in the rulebook on page 69, section 42O that any use of The Force or Jedi mind tricks are strictly prohibited.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Maybe Vegas knows that Stone, Tuch and Pacioretty are not coming back anytime soon, and they figure the season is already bozo?

Or they plan on pulling cap shinanigans knowing the NHL will never look hard at them for doing so.

[Mr.Coffee]

Trading Hanifin would be a huge mistake. That’s going backwards I think.