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Old 10-28-2021, 04:03 PM   #381
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Moving Theodore is not a good thing for Vegas. I get doing it because a player like Eichel doesn't come along often, but just evaluating Theodore and his importance to the team, it's a big loss for them.
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Hypothetically, keeping Dube at centre is to prepare for the movement of Monahan to a second team. And hypothetically, the emergence of Kylington on the second pairing, and readiness of Mackie for the third, opens up the possibility of Valimaki being a movable piece. Hyperkinetically.
Would telekinesis help in this situation?
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As this is a thread dedicated to news and thoughts about Jack Eichel, perhaps take your musings about William Nylander to the "2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours" all-purpose thread.
Or if you want to talk about Marner, check out the Game day thread.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:12 PM   #384
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Moving Theodore is not a good thing for Vegas. I get doing it because a player like Eichel doesn't come along often, but just evaluating Theodore and his importance to the team, it's a big loss for them.
Ya I was surprised to hear him as even a possible option

Hes on track to be a top pairing guy, if hes not already

Cant imagine vegas is adding much at all if its him
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I'd never trade Theodore for a potentially broken Eichel if I was Vegas.

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Old 10-28-2021, 04:19 PM   #386
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Theodore for Eichel 1-for-1 might even be a reasonable deal.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:20 PM   #387
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Hanifin apparently wasn't out there for morning skate.

Hypothetically. Wait. Think I did that wrong.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:20 PM   #388
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I'd never trade Theodore for a potentially broken Eichel if I was Vegas.

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They would pretty much be torpedoing their season if they did, not to mention the question marks in the future is Eichel doesn't get back to his old form.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:27 PM   #389
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I think that Vegas losing Theodore would be akin to Calgary losing Hanfin. There is not a ready replacement in the system for what they bring to the table, and I would call both a non-starter.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:30 PM   #390
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Defencemen are available every off-season.

Elite centres are not.

It makes absolute sense for Vegas to trade Theodore in a deal for Eichel, and it makes complete sense for the Flames to trade Hanifin in a deal for Eichel.

…I think it would be absolutely stupid of Buffalo to target either player though. It’s not what they should be looking to bring back.
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I think that Vegas losing Theodore would be akin to Calgary losing Hanfin. There is not a ready replacement in the system for what they bring to the table, and I would call both a non-starter.
I am doubtful buffalo takes any 1 for 1 deal, which means it would still probably be Theodore/Krebs/Pick for Eichel. Vegas in trouble if anyone is ready to return before the playoffs as they are currently already using LTIR for cap relief, and are in a bad spot come the off-season without enough money coming off the books to be able to fit everyone and fill the holes, as it seems almost everyone expiring next year is low cost.

It's hard to see how Vegas can deal away enough salary to not be cap constrained next year, keep enough of their current productive pieces to be competitive this year, and get Eichel.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:40 PM   #393
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I am doubtful buffalo takes any 1 for 1 deal, which means it would still probably be Theodore/Krebs/Pick for Eichel.

Vegas in trouble if anyone is ready to return before the playoffs as they are currently already using LTIR for cap relief, and are in a bad spot come the off-season without enough money coming off the books to be able to fit everyone and fill the holes, as it seems almost everyone expiring next year is low cost.

It's hard to see how Vegas can deal away enough salary to not be cap constrained next year, keep enough of their current productive pieces to be competitive this year, and get Eichel.
Agreed, I would think a blue chip prospect and 1st round selection is a must

For a team like Vegas, Buffalo I would think would want more

As their pick could be late in the draft

Vegas however I would think has to include a roster player for cap reasons.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:50 PM   #394
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Now Vegas has signed Ben Hutton. Lots of buzz on Twitter with Eichel and Vegas right now.

When it comes to Theodore he could easily be routed to a third team like we do with our Monahan proposals.

Maybe Vegas punts this year and keeps their pick and sends their 23 1st?
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1453845602366754817

If Vegas acquire Eichel I will be upset.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:57 PM   #396
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Something is up in Vegas. They have Ben Hutton on capfriendly as "registration pending" and he didn't exist there on Tuesday. Vegas is about to make a move by the looks of it.
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Ya I was surprised to hear him as even a possible option

Hes on track to be a top pairing guy, if hes not already

Cant imagine vegas is adding much at all if its him
A poll of all 31 NHL coaches last May had Theodore at #4 in Norris voting.

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Old 10-28-2021, 04:59 PM   #398
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Nooooooooo.

Don’t want this guy in our division if he’s not playing for us.
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Yeah I feel like this is Eichel closing this deal...and a d-men or maybe a couple d-men are going the other way
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