Ongoing YYCCC (Chu + Farkas) Transgressions Threat

[CroFlames]

I got a text from the Farkas campaign today asking for my vote.

Wanted to reply F-off, don't send me unsolicited messages.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Swift

Unsworth meanwhile has "pro-union" and "academic" listed among his cons. LOL, "academic" is a scare word? By using that strategy, aren't you sending a particular message - "Hey, don't vote for that educated guy. Vote for me, the less smart guy". Unsworth is pictured with Gondek, this time actually together in the photo.

Strange times. I mean why would they list both “pro-union” and “academic” when the former already implies the latter?

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Strange times. I mean why would they list both “pro-union” and “academic” when the former already implies the latter?

the intended audience can't be expected to make that connection. two triggery buzzwords is always better than one.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Slava

I kind of disagree. When the party/person comes to my door that I have zero intention of voting for, I want to eat as much of their time as is practical for me. The longer they waste time talking to me, the less time they have at other doors where people might vote for them!

Usually the same... but that only applies to normal politicians I don't want to win, for guys like this the juice of wasting their time ain't worth the squeeze of discomfort.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Strange times. I mean why would they list both “pro-union” and “academic” when the former already implies the latter?

Lol.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

Lol.

You’re one of a handful of posters who I thought would enjoy that one

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Yet they are projecting DCU losing badly in Ward 13

I'll believe it when I see it.

Dan Maclean is the prototypical generic white conservative candidate. At civic, provincial and federal levels this area of the City votes massively in the Conservative candidate's favor. It's never even close.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

You’re one of a handful of posters who I thought would enjoy that one

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Here's the ward by ward results.


https://www.commonsensecalgary.com/m...polls_released


Sean Chu? Are you ####ing kidding me? I hate people more and more every day. Get it together.

At least they're not confident in Chandler at all.



John "Chubby Hubby" Duta is only sitting at 4%. Disappointing.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

If it was, you certainly bit

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Common Sense Calgary is a farce.

Want to know why?

Because their polling includes introducing their Ward front-runners as dubiously-coined "union-PAC-endorsed candidate", while having no such descriptors for non-progressive candidates. They even have this gem:

"In Ward 10, former Councillor Chabot looks set for a return, polling 44%, well ahead of the former staffer to Liberal minister, Marie-Claude Bibeau, and union-PAC-endorsed Abed Harb, on 13%."

No objectively-based non-partisan group would ever describe candidates like this - clearly a swipe at progressive candidates.

And their social media feeds are clearly on a partisan tilt.

While some of these Ward results may not be entirely far off, do not give credence to this ragtag band of conservative sycophants.

Releasing misleading polls like this before an election is extremely detrimental to our democracy. If this is the case, they should be treated harshly by whatever laws we can use against them. So gross.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Releasing misleading polls like this before an election is extremely detrimental to our democracy. If this is the case, they should be treated harshly by whatever laws we can use against them. So gross.

The poll itself was conducted by Northwest Research Group. The editorializing of what the polls show was all CSC.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

The poll itself was conducted by Northwest Research Group. The editorializing of what the polls show was all CSC.

I just did a quick search, and they don't appear to be much of a polling organization. 538 doesn't list them as one, and they have hundreds listed.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/


Is this company at all reliable? Why use a US polling firm? Does anyone here remember getting a call from them? I'd be curious to know how leading the questions were. If it was commissioned by CSC it all seems fishy.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

...
Is this company at all reliable? Why use a US polling firm?...

What's good in polling to begin with? Any polling is flawed on many levels. Why bother?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I just did a quick search, and they don't appear to be much of a polling organization. 538 doesn't list them as one, and they have hundreds listed.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/


Is this company at all reliable? Why use a US polling firm? Does anyone here remember getting a call from them? I'd be curious to know how leading the questions were. If it was commissioned by CSC it all seems fishy.

I guess it depends which Northwest Research Group they used.

There's Northwest Research Group, LLC which shows as being from Seattle. Really basic ass website.

Then there's Northwest Research Group which claims to offer "bespoke market research services to clients across Saskatchewan". Site is even more basic than the first. Domain has been registered since 2019, and the Let's Encrypt certificate was issued for a whopping 3 month expiry starting in September.

Either way it seems fishy as hell.

[burn_this_city]

Polls showing unpopular candidates in the lead or close should energize the opposing voter block. We've saw this in 2017 with polling showing Nenshi way back and I think it energized the moderate/progressive base. He won by 7.5% when some polls had him down by 17% to Bill Smith.

Polling comes up during every election as a quantitative measure of which candidate is in the lead and who is most likely to get elected.


FULL COVERAGE: 2017 Calgary election

A poll released Wednesday afternoon shows Calgary mayoral candidate Naheed Nenshi ahead of fellow candidate Bill Smith by 15 points.

This information comes five days after a poll commissioned by a different group had Smith ahead of Nenshi by 13 points.

A third poll, released Oct. 7 showed Smith ahead of Nenshi by 17 points.

According to Mount Royal University political scientist Duane Bratt, some skepticism over polling results is probably wise.

“When you see (results) all across the board — when you see one poll with Nenshi up 17 points and another with Smith up 17 points — that tells us neither of them are accurate. Either one is dead-on and the other is completely accurate, or there’s something fundamentally flawed with all of them.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/3798338/c...ctory-results/

[GGG]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Polls showing unpopular candidates in the lead or close should energize the opposing voter block. We've saw this in 2017 with polling showing Nenshi way back and I think it energized the moderate/progressive base. He won by 7.5% when some polls had him down by 17% to Bill Smith.

Polling comes up during every election as a quantitative measure of which candidate is in the lead and who is most likely to get elected.


FULL COVERAGE: 2017 Calgary election

A poll released Wednesday afternoon shows Calgary mayoral candidate Naheed Nenshi ahead of fellow candidate Bill Smith by 15 points.

This information comes five days after a poll commissioned by a different group had Smith ahead of Nenshi by 13 points.

A third poll, released Oct. 7 showed Smith ahead of Nenshi by 17 points.

According to Mount Royal University political scientist Duane Bratt, some skepticism over polling results is probably wise.

“When you see (results) all across the board — when you see one poll with Nenshi up 17 points and another with Smith up 17 points — that tells us neither of them are accurate. Either one is dead-on and the other is completely accurate, or there’s something fundamentally flawed with all of them.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/3798338/c...ctory-results/

The average of all the polls last time was better than anyone poll.

[Cappy]

I doubt the CSC polls are fake. But probably half assed and not particularly scientific. Few phone calls to random lan lines and boom

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I doubt the CSC polls are fake. But probably half assed and not particularly scientific. Few phone calls to random lan lines and boom

You could target your calls to certain communities within a ward to really skew the result.

[Torture]

Yeah, I wouldn't say that they're all out fake, most of the results seem to line up....but they probably did some trickery and bias in the questions (see: colour bars) because they have an agenda.