[Signing] Rangers and Zibanejad agree on contract extension (8 yrs, $8.5 mil AAV)

[DJones]

Should be a cap for Gaudreau. Similar age and a center.

I'd sign it

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by codynw

Zibanejad was on pace for 60 goals just a year ago. Johnny was on pace for 60 points.

Gaudreau was on pace for 71 points last season, has far better career numbers, and had ONE less point last season

This place sometimes...cherry pick another players best season against Gaudreau's worst

Zibanejad's career high is 75 points, Gaudreau 99

[1_Flames_Fan]

Good comparable for Johnny.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

Good comparable for Johnny.

Maybe. But have to remember most players will be a little more flexible in their contract for a chance to play in NY than they will in Calgary. If the flames suggested to Johnny’s camp that he should take the same number… his agents could rightfully say… this isn’t New York City.


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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Maybe. But have to remember most players will be a little more flexible in their contract for a chance to play in NY than they will in Calgary. If the flames suggested to Johnny’s camp that he should take the same number… his agents could rightfully say… this isn’t New York City.


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True, but the Flames could also rightfully point out that the Rangers are not going to be in the market for his services now. The number of teams that will be in the market for high profile players is dwindling.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

True, but the Flames could also rightfully point out that the Rangers are not going to be in the market for his services now. The number of teams that will be in the market for high profile players is dwindling.

NY is just one example. There will be multiple teams in other great cities that will be going after Johnny if he goes to free agency. The point is that the flames will likely have to overpay to keep Gaudreau… which I am fine with. That’s the cost of keeping elite talent in Calgary. I think the number will be $9 million per year to keep him here… and that’s if he signed today. If he waits and has a monster year (which I have a feeling he will) I think the number gets higher.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gaudreau was on pace for 71 points last season, has far better career numbers, and had ONE less point last season

This place sometimes...cherry pick another players best season against Gaudreau's worst

Zibanejad's career high is 75 points, Gaudreau 99

Zib also got off to a horrible start last year as he recovered from COVID.

His 75 points was in 57 games, a 108 point pace.


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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Zib also got off to a horrible start last year as he recovered from COVID.

His 75 points was in 57 games, a 108 point pace.


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I never said he was bad...if you are comparing players and using one guys best year and another's worst you are obviously cherry picking.

They are comparable... Gaudreau has better career numbers.

Zib is also didn't spend most of last season with Ritchie on his opposite wing.

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I never said he was bad...if you are comparing players and using one guys best year and another's worst you are obviously cherry picking.

They are comparable... Gaudreau has better career numbers.

Zib is also didn't spend most of last season with Ritchie on his opposite wing.

Gaudreau didn't spend most of last season with Ritchie on his opposite wing.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

Gaudreau didn't spend most of last season with Ritchie on his opposite wing.

Yeah he did, more than anyone else no? I thought someone posted these numbers recently.

Anyway, Zib puts up Bennet hit numbers, he does everything. Gaudreau $8x8 and I’d be happy though.

[InternationalVillager]

When people talk about other players around the league. They really show how little they watch other teams. Zibanejad is MILES ahead of Gaudreau purely due to the position he plays, is one of the best goal scorers in the league and is a dynamic two way Center that plays PP and PK.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

He'll be 29 when this contract starts, and he was a 25 goal and 50 point player before he got to ride Shot Gun with Panarin. He's had one great season, and two very productive sub PPG seasons. The Rangers will be looking to escape this contract within 5 years.

Clueless comment because Zibanejad does not even play with Panarin except for on the PP. Try to actually watch said player and his team before spouting nonsense.

Zibanejad has been lugging around Kreider and a revolving door of RWers for the better part of last 2 seasons. He finally got chemistry with Buchnevich and they traded him away this offseason to give that spot to Lafreniere.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

When people talk about other players around the league. They really show how little they watch other teams. Zibanejad is MILES ahead of Gaudreau purely due to the position he plays, is one of the best goal scorers in the league and is a dynamic two way Center that plays PP and PK.

Gaudreau has far better career numbers...no he isn't MILES better. Gaudreau has better ppg and +/-

Are they different players? Yes

[AC]

Here are the even strength line combos:
165:29 19.8% Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
135:00 16.1% Gaudreau - Monahan - Ritchie
100:21 12.0% Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
57:46 6.9% Gaudreau - Monahan - Simon
57:27 6.9% Gaudreau - Monahan - Leivo
50:17 6.0% Gaudreau - Monahan - Mangiapane

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by AC

Here are the even strength line combos:
165:29 19.8% Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
135:00 16.1% Gaudreau - Monahan - Ritchie
100:21 12.0% Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
57:46 6.9% Gaudreau - Monahan - Simon
57:27 6.9% Gaudreau - Monahan - Leivo
50:17 6.0% Gaudreau - Monahan - Mangiapane

So the majority with a ####ty player on his opposite wing

Gaudreau is over ppg after Tkachuk got there in the last 20 or so games

[GioforPM]

I’d say on one hand MZ plays a more important position and a more rounded game. He’s older, though, and the term is a little long (they were forced into it). Gaudreau has better career numbers, maybe because he found his role earlier. And NYC is more attractive and Calgary costs more as a result.

I’d not want a contract well over that one though.

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So the majority with a ####ty player on his opposite wing

Gaudreau is over ppg after Tkachuk got there in the last 20 or so games

Not sure how 16% is majority.

He played 84% of the season not with Ritchie.

So please don't exaggerate to make a point.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

Not sure how 16% is majority.

He played 84% of the season not with Ritchie.

So please don't exaggerate to make a point.

Almost 30% with Ritchie Simon or Leivo and the 6 listed is about 60%? So around half with 4th line players

I’d trade Johnny if he wants 8 years at $8.5 mil but it’s definitely going to be a interesting year for Johnny if he can stick with Tkachuk and Lindholm for a large portion of his ice time. If he does he will get 80 points no question

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by AC

Here are the even strength line combos:
165:29 19.8% Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
135:00 16.1% Gaudreau - Monahan - Ritchie
100:21 12.0% Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
57:46 6.9% Gaudreau - Monahan - Simon
57:27 6.9% Gaudreau - Monahan - Leivo
50:17 6.0% Gaudreau - Monahan - Mangiapane

It would be interesting to see his PPG with each combo

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

Not sure how 16% is majority.

He played 84% of the season not with Ritchie.

So please don't exaggerate to make a point.

26% with good players (Tkachuk and Magiapane)

12% neutral (Bennett - not a top 6 but not a scrub)

30% with scrubs (Ritchie, Leivo and Simon)

and that leaves 32% which is probably similarly split