Ring Road To Nowhere

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Its already tsu tina trail isnt it?

Oooh, I have to try it out then.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Oooh, I have to try it out then.

There's really nothing to try yet... The new Tsu Tina segment of the former Hwy 8 basically connects the south end of 69th street to Glenmore Tr and SB Tsu Tina for couple kms. Further west of 69th, it's closed at 101st and basically just merges into the old Hwy 8 around Elbow Valley... Really not much to see

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Shazam

So is the plan on the west side to have the NW part of the ring road join to 8, and then you're supposed to drive on 8 to get to the SW part? Are they keeping that part of 8 as "highway 8" or are there other plans for that part?

I presume Highway 8 now 'starts' (by no other name) at about 101st where the interchange will be.

[Hart50]

Somewhat off topic but are there plans to twin highway 8 from 101 street west to the Bragg Creek traffic circle?

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Hart50

Somewhat off topic but are there plans to twin highway 8 from 101 street west to the Bragg Creek traffic circle?

You'd have to twin 22 as well to make it worth the time/money.

[Ahuch]

Originally Posted by Hart50

Somewhat off topic but are there plans to twin highway 8 from 101 street west to the Bragg Creek traffic circle?

They just finished what seems like widening it a bit and repaving it, so I'm going with not anytime soon.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Hart50

Somewhat off topic but are there plans to twin highway 8 from 101 street west to the Bragg Creek traffic circle?

Not any time soon I don't think. They just re-paved it.

I imagine it will mostly be Bragg creek/Red Woof meadows traffic after the ring road is finished.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by you&me

There's really nothing to try yet... The new Tsu Tina segment of the former Hwy 8 basically connects the south end of 69th street to Glenmore Tr and SB Tsu Tina for couple kms. Further west of 69th, it's closed at 101st and basically just merges into the old Hwy 8 around Elbow Valley... Really not much to see

Does it have different signs? Then I have to see them.

[red sky]

There will be a portion twined west of the ring road up to the elbow valley entrance, or slightly further up the hill from there.

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

My wife took the SWRR yesterday evening to and from a friend's place. She found that it was pretty much equivalent in terms of how much time it would normally take her to go from our place (Crowchild @ 50 Ave SW) to our friend in Auburn Bay.

One thing she did note was that it was very easy to going southbound from Glenmore Trail, but coming back on Stoney / 22x Westbound it was more confusing, as the exit to Stoney/Tsuut'ina Northbound came up very quickly and wasn't -- in her view -- very well signed. The name change also threw her for a bit of a loop and she ended up going too far west and having to detour to get back onto the SWRR northbound.

I'll give it a try myself today, I'm curious to see what it's like for myself.

The signage is late and poorly designed. I nearly missed it the other morning.

Also WTF is with westbound Glenmore to south Stoney. The absolute worst signage ever. Sign say go straight but really you exit right like 100’ past the signs. Who designs this stuff? Brutal.

Rest of the SW portion was primo. But booo! to the signage.

[GGG]

Maybe the signage is too early?

They have the first sign prior to the James Mckevitt turnoff.

Agree on the westbound glenmore one

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by GGG

Maybe the signage is too early?

They have the first sign prior to the James Mckevitt turnoff.

Agree on the westbound glenmore one

Yea maybe it’s too early and I totally missed it.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Hart50

Somewhat off topic but are there plans to twin highway 8 from 101 street west to the Bragg Creek traffic circle?

Planning study was done in 2010 by AECOM.

Planning study for Highway 22 twinning from Bragg to Cochrane was done in 2014 by ISL.

No timeline for shovels in the ground on either of these, but the planning study just means we kind of have an idea of how it will go when the time comes, a rough cost, and any major obstacles.

Originally Posted by Shazam

So is the plan on the west side to have the NW part of the ring road join to 8, and then you're supposed to drive on 8 to get to the SW part? Are they keeping that part of 8 as "highway 8" or are there other plans for that part?

The bit of Glenmore (that's now 10 lanes wide) from just west of Discovery Ridge until Sarcee is now technically renamed Stoney. That stretch of road is now technically both highway 201 and highway 8. Glenmore's west end is now at Sarcee. As for the official end point of highway 8, I'm not exactly sure. Have to see if the length is revised in the Alberta Transportation document next year.

Originally Posted by Weitz

Its already tsu tina trail isnt it?

Tsuut'ina Trail refers only to the section of 201 that lies within the legal boundaries of the reserve, which is from just south of the Sarcee interchange down to Fish Creek. This is dumb. For the purpose of simplifying signage they should have just named the entire piece from Glenmore to 22X as Tsuut'ina, so the road name changes at interchanges where it bends 90° instead of in the middle of nowhere.

There is a slim possibility the folks from the Stoney reserve did not want this, given that Tsuut'ina wanted the entire ring to be named Tsuu'tina and there was something of a minor conflict as to what pavement would carry what name.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Acey

The bit of Glenmore (that's now 10 lanes wide) from just west of Discovery Ridge until Sarcee is now technically renamed Stoney. That stretch of road is now technically both highway 201 and highway 8. Glenmore's west end is now at Sarcee. As for the official end point of highway 8, I'm not exactly sure. Have to see if the length is revised in the Alberta Transportation document next year.

Glenmore's west end was always at Sarcee.

The signage westbound doesn't indicate Highway 8 beginning at Sarcee anymore, it's indicated past 69th. As far as I know, Highway 8 will just be another exit from 201 at roughly where 101st is now. Between that exit and Sarcee/Glenmore will be—and already is—just Stoney Trail SW/Hwy 201. It's not signed as Hwy 8 at all anymore.

[Acey]

Where the signage and shields physically are is irrelevant because concurrencies are almost never signed in Alberta, which is why the official length from Alberta Transportation will be the only true indication.

[timun]

Weird take, Acey, but okay...

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by rohara66

Also WTF is with westbound Glenmore to south Stoney. The absolute worst signage ever. Sign say go straight but really you exit right like 100’ past the signs. Who designs this stuff? Brutal.

I looked on Google Street View and couldn't see what the issue was. The signs seem to be right over the exit points, and the WB to SB movement really is dead straight at both exits.

Here's a link to the first sign, and here's a link to the second sign.

[TorqueDog]

Finally drove it today and I don't think the south to northbound Stoney signage is really that confusing. It's basically the same signage as Deerfoot South where it splits to Bow Bottom Trail / Anderson Road. And the Tsuut'ina name change happens in the middle of the SWRR stretch well past the turn off from 22x.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by rohara66

Yea maybe it’s too early and I totally missed it.

And another sign 500m prior to the exit. If there is one before James McKevitt and this one seems like they've done a reasonable job of signage.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by timun

Weird take, Acey, but okay...

I mean... it's true. Look at 22X for the entire distance it shares pavement with Stoney in south Calgary. That is still 22X... but there's not a 22X shield to be seen anywhere.

The lack of highway 8 shields on Stoney is not evidence that the road is not highway 8.