How did you establish he was the 15th most important? That's pretty precise.
I also think when he's on his game Tkachuk is really dynamic. And Lindholm is a helluva player.
But I get it. Everything stinks. Fun.
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If this is what it takes to make the team in terms of a preseason performance, the team is going to be awful.
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If this is what it takes to make the team in terms of a preseason performance, the team is going to be awful.
He's been pretty good for all of camp... being a good faceoff man is just the cherry on top
Seemed like every time I looked up at the game and he took a faceoff, he won.
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They spend $80M a year on this roster and they have one dynamic player.
One guy who can threaten a defense.
I just don’t get it. I don’t understand what they’re looking for when they evaluate talent.
Blake Coleman, no disrespect, was the 15th-most important piece of two Cup winners, and we just had to give him 6 years and $4.9 per. He’s never had 40 points.
$4.9M worth of cap would come in real handy if you were, I dunno, trying to add a $10.5M centre.
One player that is worth paying the price of an admission ticket.
Can’t win like that.
5th most ice-time for forwards at even strength for TB last year.
Would've had 45+ points in each of his last two years if they were full seasons.
He fills a hole on this team. It would be great to have Eichel and Coleman.
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They spend $80M a year on this roster and they have one dynamic player.
One guy who can threaten a defense.
I just don’t get it. I don’t understand what they’re looking for when they evaluate talent.
Blake Coleman, no disrespect, was the 15th-most important piece of two Cup winners, and we just had to give him 6 years and $4.9 per. He’s never had 40 points.
$4.9M worth of cap would come in real handy if you were, I dunno, trying to add a $10.5M centre.
One player that is worth paying the price of an admission ticket.
Can’t win like that.
What? did you even watch the playoffs the last two years...he was one of their best 5 on 5 players and played 18 mins a night with no PP time. 26 playoff points in two years in a 2 way role.
Say crap like that about Lucic but not Coleman
Coleman is going to be one of the Flames best players and 4.9M is not that big a salary these days
They spend $80M a year on this roster and they have one dynamic player.
One guy who can threaten a defense.
I just don’t get it. I don’t understand what they’re looking for when they evaluate talent.
Blake Coleman, no disrespect, was the 15th-most important piece of two Cup winners, and we just had to give him 6 years and $4.9 per. He’s never had 40 points.
$4.9M worth of cap would come in real handy if you were, I dunno, trying to add a $10.5M centre.
One player that is worth paying the price of an admission ticket.
Can’t win like that.
For what it's worth, Evolving-Hockey's model pegged Coleman as the seventh-most valuable skater on the 2021 Lightning. Behind only Point, Hedman, Gourde, Palat, Killorn, and Cernak. Ahead of Stamkos, Cirelli, Sergachev, Johnson, Goodrow, Colton, McDonagh, Foote, etc.
15th definitely seems like a massive stretch. Coleman is a very good player and has a history of excellent play in a top-six role (with NJ).
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They spend $80M a year on this roster and they have one dynamic player.
One guy who can threaten a defense.
I just don’t get it. I don’t understand what they’re looking for when they evaluate talent.
Blake Coleman, no disrespect, was the 15th-most important piece of two Cup winners, and we just had to give him 6 years and $4.9 per. He’s never had 40 points.
$4.9M worth of cap would come in real handy if you were, I dunno, trying to add a $10.5M centre.
One player that is worth paying the price of an admission ticket.
Can’t win like that.
Coleman is a good player, unfortunately, as a UFA, you pay what the market can bear...over priced or not, he fills a need on the Flames roster that the system could not...
You could have all the cap space in the world, but if Buffalo doesn't like what you are willing to offer for Eichel, it doesn't matter...
I don't care about the result of a preseason game but I just can't get over the league overturning a goal for a high stick that preceded the goal. It's the equivalent of the NFL overturning a touchdown because on replay they found a hold by an offensive lineman that was missed by the officials. For a league that struggles to provide entertainment value at times this level of micromanagement to overturn the most exciting part of an NHL game is extremely idiotic. I'm surprised all the paleontologists around the world don't focus all their time studying the decision makers of the NHL as they are the closest thing to dinosaurs left on this planet.
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I think it is very worrisome that the team was outshot 17-3 in the first period when they were playing pretty much their best lineup of the preseason.
They haven't shown that kind of dominance themselves at ANY point.
That is very troubling and I am hoping not an indication of what is to come.
The Flames were without their leading scorer, their #1/2 centre, and their starting goalie sat on the bench for the entire game. I don't think this was their best lineup, and again, it is difficult to draw conclusions about team-play from a preseason game. I think what happened last night was that MTS Centre is already a difficult building to play in, and Winnipeg has a tendency to pile up a lot of shots and zone-time early. This was probably compounded by the fact that several Flames players are still not playing at game-speed with over a week left before their season starts.
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Hardily their best line up. I didn't catch the first period, but I didn't think they looked that bad. I think there was a little home advantage in the shot clock. on a side note, it really is becoming blatantly obvious with some shot keepers. In Calgary they seem to review if it is a shot, while in Edmonton Hanifin shovels the puck to Markstrom and the Oilers get credit for a shot. Just no standard.
The Flames were without their leading scorer, their #1/2 centre, and their starting goalie sat on the bench for the entire game. I don't think this was their best lineup, and again, it is difficult to draw conclusions about team-play from a preseason game. I think what happened last night was that MTS Centre is already a difficult building to play in, and Winnipeg has a tendency to pile up a lot of shots and zone-time early. This was probably compounded by the fact that several Flames players are still not playing at game-speed with over a week left before their season starts.
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The team, not matter the lineup, hasn't looked good for most of the preseason.
Yep, it's preseason. It is by and large meaningless.
But there are two games left and the team looks a little lost. This is a team that needs to be firing on every cylinder if it wants to compete. And that starts in preseason.
It's not encouraging and i am a pretty positive fan.
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Also the whole "He's never had more than 40 points" thing is stupid because it doesn't account for the two shortened seasons.
Mangiapane had 32 points in 56 games last year - that's a 47 point pace.
Coleman had 31 points in 55 games last year - that's a 46 point pace.
Both were on pace for around 40 points in the previous shortened 19-20 season as well.
And Coleman did it in a third line role with no power play time that I can recall. And was still 7th on the team in scoring. 6th in goals. Second highest plus on the team. In the POs he was 8th in points, because Kucherov was back taking the top spot.
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