The Legend of Sam Bennett

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

How are people still not over this trade? lol

Because the organization is largely still the same organization from top to bottom as it was when this trade was made?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Aren't Jacques Richard and Tom Lysiak the highest draft picks in the franchise's history?

Bennett is the highest in Calgary's team history.

Or is the franchise the Calgary Flames? I don't know.

You’re right those are the highest franchise picks. That Richard pick really bothered me at the time as I had Steve Shutt higher in my pre draft rankings. But I was on board with Lysiak.

Richard ended up being quite the cautionary tale, poor guy. RIP.

[memphusk]

Sam Bennett would thrive under a full year of Darryl. Its pretty obvious that some players on the team don't want anything to do with getting grimy. I like grimy. Grimy is what makes sport fun. This ones for Sam.��

[dino7c]

Gudbranson was drafter higher....Flames upgraded if draft pedigree is the measure of a player

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Vasi still had the puck, and Bennett was actually trying to play it. I don't think that should even be a penalty.

lol go read the rule book...and posters thanking this proves my point that Sam can do no wrong is some eyes

No, you can't hit the goalie just because he is out of the crease and its irrelevant if he has the puck

He took multiple strides from the faceoff dot to hit the goalie. Charge, roughing, or goalie interference take your pick. Refs are gonna call it every time so the game doesn't get too out of hand. You are also hitting the best goalie in the league in the preseason.

I actually think Sam is a decent player, just that people go overboard about him. This isn't a since he has been traded exgf type thing, had the same debates when he was on the Flames

[OminousFlames]

I miss Bennett on our team. Especially against the Jets.
Infact I am a casual Florida fan now, thanks to Bennett.

[InternationalVillager]

Stop bumping this thread. His stats are almost entirely the result of playing with Huberdeau. That player is god like. He’s a 90+ point guy no matter who you play him with. First line with Barkov or second line with Bennett. Look at what Barkov has done for Carter Verhaeghe. Look at what Artemi Panarin has done for Ryan Strome. Ryan Strome practically owes his entire success to Panarin. Without him, he is literally a ZERO. Without Huberdeau, Bennett is nothing more than a tweener role player.

Look at what Sidney Crosby did for the career of Kunitz and Dupuis. There have been multitudes of these examples over the years. Stop getting disillusioned by the numbers. They are inflated because said player is on a line with elite talent and is getting prime ice time.

That wasn’t going to happen in Calgary because the best player we have is Gaudreau and there is not a chance he can elevate another players gameplay in the same dimension as a Huberdeau, Barkov, Panarin, Crosby, Malkin, McDavid. Just stop the conversation already.

EDIT- Look at what McDavid/Draisaitl did for the numbers of Tyson Barrie. Practically first in dmen scoring in the league. LOL by the same metric…Leafs fans should be extremely upset. Just stop this kind of comparison already. It’s nonsense.

EDIT 2- Bennett had 20 points in the regular season and playoffs with the Panthers last year. Huberdeau was involved in 15 of those points for a whopping 75% of Bennett’s production. The moral of the story is that an elite player like Huberdeau is gonna get his no matter what and he just takes the others around him along for the ride. So do the other elite players in this league.

[Erick Estrada]

I'm loving the salty tears from fans that are having a difficult time accepting the Flames mismanaged Bennett. He's clicking with Huberdeau which is exactly what he's supposed to do and he adds an element of physicality to that line that not all players can bring.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Stop bumping this thread. His stats are almost entirely the result of playing with Huberdeau. That player is god like. He’s a 90+ point guy no matter who you play him with. First line with Barkov or second line with Bennett. Look at what Barkov has done for Carter Verhaeghe. Look at what Artemi Panarin has done for Ryan Strome. Ryan Strome practically owes his entire success to Panarin. Without him, he is literally a ZERO. Without Huberdeau, Bennett is nothing more than a tweener role player.

Look at what Sidney Crosby did for the career of Kunitz and Dupuis. There have been multitudes of these examples over the years. Stop getting disillusioned by the numbers. They are inflated because said player is on a line with elite talent and is getting prime ice time.

That wasn’t going to happen in Calgary because the best player we have is Gaudreau and there is not a chance he can elevate another players gameplay in the same dimension as a Huberdeau, Barkov, Panarin, Crosby, Malkin, McDavid. Just stop the conversation already.

EDIT- Look at what McDavid/Draisaitl did for the numbers of Tyson Barrie. Practically first in dmen scoring in the league. LOL by the same metric…Leafs fans should be extremely upset. Just stop this kind of comparison already. It’s nonsense.

EDIT 2- Bennett had 20 points in the regular season and playoffs with the Panthers last year. Huberdeau was involved in 15 of those points for a whopping 75% of Bennett’s production. The moral of the story is that an elite player like Huberdeau is gonna get his no matter what and he just takes the others around him along for the ride. So do the other elite players in this league.

Bennett can be a 50-60 point player in the role that he has been given with the Panthers. But reducing his game to points only is a huge misstep, the Panthers didn't get him for his point production. They wanted toughness and grit and a center who can play in their top six. He also elevates his game in the playoffs, protects his teammates and doesn't take #### from anyone. That's something that the Panthers really missed in the past.

[Scroopy Noopers]

“Bennett is only succeeding because he’s lining up with skilled players!”

… yeah, that’s what we’ve been asking for since day 1!

[Vinny01]

Bennett is the exact type of player Sutter covets.

To me this all goes back to his brutal hire of Peters. He should have brought in Darryl right after Gulutzan. Even then he should have made the Sutter move when Peter’s resigned. The team finally gets a coach who could get the most out of Bennett and he started to turn the corner and then gets dealt.

Bennett owns some of this for sure but I think the bulk of this is with Treliving and the poor coaching hires and lack of firm role for Bennett.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Bennett is the exact type of player Sutter covets.

To me this all goes back to his brutal hire of Peters. He should have brought in Darryl right after Gulutzan. Even then he should have made the Sutter move when Peter’s resigned. The team finally gets a coach who could get the most out of Bennett and he started to turn the corner and then gets dealt.

Bennett owns some of this for sure but I think the bulk of this is with Treliving and the poor coaching hires and lack of firm role for Bennett.

It’s pretty clear they tried to hire Sutter, at the very least, to replace Peters after that season, but he didn’t want it then.

I’m not sure it’s so apparent that Bennett was doing a whole lot better under Sutter. But in any event, it’s also pretty clear that Sutter had no objection to dealing Bennett. You honestly think Treliving didn’t consult with his new hire about that move?

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol go read the rule book...and posters thanking this proves my point that Sam can do no wrong is some eyes

No, you can't hit the goalie just because he is out of the crease and its irrelevant if he has the puck

He took multiple strides from the faceoff dot to hit the goalie. Charge, roughing, or goalie interference take your pick. Refs are gonna call it every time so the game doesn't get too out of hand. You are also hitting the best goalie in the league in the preseason.

I actually think Sam is a decent player, just that people go overboard about him. This isn't a since he has been traded exgf type thing, had the same debates when he was on the Flames

I don't think it has anything to do with a love affair with Sam Bennett. I have zero connection to him and I see that play and like it. He didn't "hit" the goalie, he just made contact while trying to get the puck. IMO, and it looks like in powders opinion as well, that needs to be a part of the game and not a penalty.

My biggest takeaway from that video is: when did Corey Perry get on the bolts and why does he have such a punchable face???!?!?!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Stop bumping this thread.

No.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s pretty clear they tried to hire Sutter, at the very least, to replace Peters after that season, but he didn’t want it then.

It is? Is there a source for this thought? My understanding is that he wasn't available when Peters was hired, so not considered. And then yeah when Peters got the boot, they could have brought him in, and then again could have when giving Ward the full duty before firing him months later. We needed Darryl right after Gulutzan threw his stick like an idiot.

I’m not sure it’s so apparent that Bennett was doing a whole lot better under Sutter. But in any event, it’s also pretty clear that Sutter had no objection to dealing Bennett. You honestly think Treliving didn’t consult with his new hire about that move?

I don't think this is necessarily true. I think it's possible neither Darryl or Tre WANTED to trade Bennett. It was a tough position to be in to roll the dice again on him next season, or try and get something valuable for him while they could. We could all project that Sam could do well with Sutter, but it was a big risk to lose out on his return.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

“Bennett is only succeeding because he’s lining up with skilled players!”

… yeah, that’s what we’ve been asking for since day 1!

To be fair, even McDavid needs Drai to succeed? 🤔

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s pretty clear they tried to hire Sutter, at the very least, to replace Peters after that season, but he didn’t want it then.

I’m not sure it’s so apparent that Bennett was doing a whole lot better under Sutter. But in any event, it’s also pretty clear that Sutter had no objection to dealing Bennett. You honestly think Treliving didn’t consult with his new hire about that move?

It was, he was doing better. He was still on 4th line LW but produced 8 points in 15 games and was killing penalties every night.

I believe it was in a Bennett interview post trade where he mentioned Darryl’s parting words were that he wished he had more time with him.

[The Fisher Account]

It's preseason. Just wait til he goes through another 10-15 game stretch of dumb penalties and no offense.

Shredding this boat anchor was necessary and I'm glad he's gone.

[devo22]

I'm just really happy for Sam. I've always rooted hard for the guy and I'm not surprised he's thriving after a much-needed change of scenery. Hope he has a great year.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

“Bennett is only succeeding because he’s lining up with skilled players!”

… yeah, that’s what we’ve been asking for since day 1!

Are we going to have to dig up the stats again showing how ineffective Bennett was when he lined up with Gaudreau and Monahan?