View Poll Results: Pick the best prospect from the following
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Boltmann, Jake
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6 |
5.45% |
Ciona, Lucas
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4 |
3.64% |
Duehr, Walker
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1 |
0.91% |
Feuk, Lucas
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0% |
Kirkland, Justin
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5 |
4.55% |
Koumontzis, Demetrios
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0% |
Lerby, Carl-Johan
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3 |
2.73% |
Nikolaev, Ilya
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47 |
42.73% |
Nodler, Josh
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5 |
4.55% |
Philp, Luke
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15 |
13.64% |
Poolman, Colton
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2.73% |
Sergeev, Arseni
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2.73% |
Tuulola, Eetu
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3.64% |
Werner, Adam
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11 |
10.00% |
Yelesin, Alxander
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2.73% |
08-31-2021, 08:00 AM
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#1
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking 2021 - Round 27
Welcome to the annual Calgarypuck Prospect Poll!
As per usual ...
1. Rank the prospects as you like. Upside, chances, or trade value
2. I will try and do one a day which should get us to rookie camp range
3. Graduates and/or runoffs will be determined in each case
4. Please don't complain that the polls are going to deep. We go until all the prospects are ranked, so don't vote if you don't want to.
Link to previous years ... Link
2021 Ranking:
1. Coronato, Matthew 44%
2. Zary, Connor 65%
3. Pelletier, Jacob 86%
4. Wolf, Dustin 40%
5. Vladar, Daniel 45%
6. Mackey, Connor 38%
7. Stromgren, William 26%
8. Kuznetsov, Yan 36%
9. Ruzicka, Adam 27%
10. Kinnvall, Johannes 29%
11. Heineman, Emil 38%
12. Francis, Ryan 30%
13. Poirier, Jeremie 46%
14. Phillips, Matthew 38%
15. Pospisil, Martin 34%
16. Pettersen, Emilio Mathias 59%
17. Gawdin, Glen 28%
18. Jordan, Cole (Run Off)
19. Huckins, Cole (Run Off)
20. Parsons, Tyler 28%
21. Whynot, Cameron (Run Off)
22. Kerins, Rory (Run Off)
23. Chechelev, Daniil 26%
24. Zavagorodny, Dmitry 28%
25. Solovyov, Ilya 35%
26. Beck, Jack 42%
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08-31-2021, 10:11 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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I think Arseni Sergeev should start getting votes soon.
Sergeev's draft year: 93.6% in the NAHL. 6'3. Drafted 205th overall (a surprisingly good draft spot: see Pavelski and Lundqvist among others).
Hellebuyck's draft year: 93.0% in the NAHL. 6'4. Drafted 130th overall.
As far as recent seventh rounds picks go, what's not to like with the Sergeev pick? He's a Russian who has already been playing in North America for years. The chances of him turning into a star goalie are very low. But there is a chance. And that's more than can be said for most of the other prospects remaining.
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08-31-2021, 01:34 PM
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#3
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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After Philip goes, my vote is up for grabs...
Does anyone have any compelling cases for the remaining prospects??
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08-31-2021, 01:45 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
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Interesting to see that United has selected Ciona; would be curious in knowing their thoughts on him.
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08-31-2021, 04:12 PM
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#5
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Franchise Player
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2nd round pick from just two drafts ago getting 4% of the vote in round 27
Yikes, what an awful pick that was, not even using hindsight even.
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08-31-2021, 04:17 PM
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#6
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All I can get
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Werner..
Because I think he could get some action this season.
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08-31-2021, 04:17 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
2nd round pick from just two drafts ago getting 4% of the vote in round 27
Yikes, what an awful pick that was, not even using hindsight even.
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3rd rounder. 80th overall. Assuming you are talking about Bolt Man.
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08-31-2021, 05:27 PM
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#8
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
3rd rounder. 80th overall. Assuming you are talking about Bolt Man.
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lol duh
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10-03-2021, 01:45 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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I had Ciona and Beck as a toss-up so obviously going Ciona here and for the next 10 rounds. Very strange to see two prospects picked so closely together just a few months ago finish so far apart in the collective rankings.
Considered
Jack Beck
Lucas Ciona
Ilya Nikolayev
Walker Duehr
Lucas Feuk
Jack Beck
Undersized winger who missed a critical development year. Not much to go on as a result but can't discount the missed year - like with Rory Kerins. Sounds like he can fly around the ice.
Lucas Ciona
Big frame and not afraid to use it to crash and bang and create turnovers in the offensive zone. Skating needs some work obviously but still saw some PK deployment. Will be underrated due to sub-5% shooting impacting boxcars though not saying he doesn't project as a grinder. In his 76-game WHL career, the rebuilding Thunderbirds have broken even with him on the ice but were -23 with him off which may surprise. Organic Flames-guided growth of his own plus his rebuilding team's yearly improvement could see him jump next season. Here's hoping he does.
Ilya Nikolayev
What an odd way to split time: played part of the season on the powerhouse Loko team who led the MHL in both wins and goals for, while also playing part of the season on the lowly Buran squad that finished with the second fewest wins in the VHL. Known as an all-around two-way centre but tough to gauge with those circumstances. Looking forward to seeing him in North America this season. In my opinion his game is better suited to smaller ice.
Walker Duehr
The former teammate of Connor Mackey is an absolute beast of a right-shot power forward who isn't a liability defensively and hits like a battering ram. Players in his mold often get looks in the 4W spots so he could see some NHL time in 2022-23 should he not look out of place in his first season as a pro in the AHL, which is more promising than most players at this point of the exercise.
Lucas Feuk
Likely completely written off by many due to levelling down, Lucas Feuk still holds a glimmer of hope in my eyes. The scrappy shoot-first winger probably doesn't have the defensive game to make it, but he is arguably the most gifted goal scorer left at this point (not that that is saying much) and his "grit" shows well to people who could give him a chance.
Not Considered
Colton Poolman - He will be 26 in December, has no notable strengths, and has a lineup ahead of him at LD. All the best.
Carl-Johan Lerby - Unlikely to return from Europe. Was worth a shot.
Justin Kirkland - By all accounts a good mid-age presence for the farm but that's it.
Alex Yelesin - Unlikely to return from Europe. Was worth a shot.
Eetu Tuulola - I don't think he's ever going to skate well enough to make it.
Luke Philp - Feel-good story but unlikely to make it. Should have a good career in other leagues, though. Derek Ryan is one of the largest outliers of the past 20 years - cheer for them but don't bet on them.
Josh Nodler - Hated this pick at the time. Jim Cummins liked him though. Soft as baby ____.
Demetrios Koumontzis - A wasted pick on this Jim Cummins high school special. Hopefully the winger will finally hit the five-goal mark for the first time in his college career as a senior.
Jake Boltmann - Could very well be Patrick Sieloff in disguise. Another Jim Cummins high school spot. Hopefully he shows some ability to transition the puck and actually gets on the scoresheet this season after getting blanked in all 19+6 games last.
Mitchell Mattson - I swear I'm not a broken record. Jim Cummins fought for this high school standout and the Flames wasted a draft pick on him for some reason. Took the big forward until his third year of college to score a goal and hey he scored two!
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"I think the eye test is still good, but analytics can sure give you confirmation: what you see...is that what you really believe?"
Scotty Bowman, 0 NHL games played
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10-03-2021, 01:46 PM
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#10
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#1 Goaltender
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Not going to post in any more of the threads until the final round, so here are the cards for Byron Bader's Hockey Prospecting and JFresh/TopDownHockey for all remaining prospects.
Hockey Prospecting
Calgary's own, and fellow Flames fan, Byron Bader runs the excellent site, Hockey Prospecting. You have likely seen his graphics before. At just $25/year his site is a wonderful resource for any fan interested in prospects. You can register here and support Bader's work if you are interested: https://hockeyprospecting.com/register/
Philp, Tuulola, Poolman, Yelesin, Kirkland, Duehr, Lerby, and Mattson are past the D+3 limit of the card's on Bader's site.
JFresh/TopDownHockey
JFresh and his partner TopDownHockey introduced their NHLe model this year. You will be familiar with the NHL player graphics they produce regularly. At $7/month the subscription is a no-brainer for any hockey fan. You can register here and support their work if you are interested: https://www.patreon.com/jfreshhockey
Philp, Poolman, Yelesin, Kirkland, and Lerby are not available on JFresh/TDH.
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Scotty Bowman, 0 NHL games played
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