People who were relying on plastic or phones for payment were scared. They had no method of getting something basic to eat or groceries. This might have been an isolated incident in the area as it wasn't just our store and may have only lasted a short while. Bottom line is that the people who had $10 or $20 were flying by the line getting milk and bread for survival meanwhile others were left holding useless plastic in some ways.
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I have used cash for a purchase maybe... once, or twice, over the past two years. Strictly when I've been given cash and used it to pay for something instead of depositing it.
And I don't even have a credit card. I also have a small amount of money at a separate bank so, should something go wrong with my main card, I have a backup.
I can see the argument for maintaining cash payments at grocery stores, gas stations, places where essentials are sold. But it's the Saddledome. The cost to just get in the door is often in the hundreds of dollars for a ticket purchased with a card on the internet. I'm sure people will be just fine figuring out how to use that card for a beer.
Didn't read the full thread but I think this is where the world is headed.
I have a number of small businesses and recently got letters from Banks stating that any business cash deposits will now result in surcharge.
So logically, I have to pay extra to give the bank my own money......but that is the world we are headed towards. Banks want to streamline their businesses and eventually eliminate as much as they can from their existing branches.
Saddledome wants to eliminate cash. Less touching dirty paper & coins. Less interaction between people. Streamlining processes.
Get with it. Get over it.
More touching dirty card machines if your tap chip doesn't work. I have seen cashiers have to wipe them down after each transaction.
Canadian notes are now mostly plastic and can be washed (we've done it) or wiped.
I guess if you don't have any cash on you and your card gets compromised and the CCC puts a halt on it, then you aren't buying anything that day. A good excuse to make your buddy buy the beers!
Money is dirty and gross and slower to pay with and less safe to handle.
And I'm sure they know how much of their transactions are currently not cash and how they will manage the risk of losing any of that.
But this is a decision that more businesses will make.
Nothing dumb about it.
It is dumb. People have used cash for centuries and most people are still alive. Is it a little dirtier and gross? Sure, but no worse than flushing a toilet in a public restroom. Plus, if 90% of people are using tap, there is very little money being exchanged and passed around. Germs should be kept to a minimum.
It's dumb when all the debit machines are down or a store is having connection problems and my card no longer works. I heard that there were no beer vendors in the stands at McMahon stadium for the first two Stamps home games because they were having difficulties with all their terminals. That's dumb and they probably lost out on a bunch of money. I feel bad for elderly and impoverished people who don't want or qualify for a credit card.
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Didn't read the full thread but I think this is where the world is headed.
I have a number of small businesses and recently got letters from Banks stating that any business cash deposits will now result in surcharge.
So logically, I have to pay extra to give the bank my own money......but that is the world we are headed towards. Banks want to streamline their businesses and eventually eliminate as much as they can from their existing branches.
So the question becomes how does the surcharge for cash deposits compare to the surcharge on the CC. Don't the CCC charge between 3-5% per transaction to the seller?
Didn't read the full thread but I think this is where the world is headed.
I have a number of small businesses and recently got letters from Banks stating that any business cash deposits will now result in surcharge.
So logically, I have to pay extra to give the bank my own money......but that is the world we are headed towards. Banks want to streamline their businesses and eventually eliminate as much as they can from their existing branches.
Banks have been charging for handling cash for a long time. It's time consuming, heavy, takes up a lot of space, requires expensive cash handling services (brinks), more manpower to transact etc. And yes, they charge you to keep your money safe. They aren't a charity and you don't want to keep your money under your mattress. Sounds like a win-win scenario to me.
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It is dumb. People have used cash for centuries and most people are still alive. Is it a little dirtier and gross? Sure, but no worse than flushing a toilet in a public restroom. Plus, if 90% of people are using tap, there is very little money being exchanged and passed around. Germs should be kept to a minimum.
It's dumb when all the debit machines are down or a store is having connection problems and my card no longer works. I heard that there were no beer vendors in the stands at McMahon stadium for the first two Stamps home games because they were having difficulties with all their terminals. That's dumb and they probably lost out on a bunch of money. I feel bad for elderly and impoverished people who don't want or qualify for a credit card.
What does this have to do with the elderly and the impoverished? If either are able to attend a Flames game, they can go to their local branch and get a debit card.
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So now my wife is going to be able to find out exactly how much I spend on beer and pocket dawgs.
What's worked well for our relationship is that we have all our finances shared but a while ago - we each decided to get a separate credit card account for each of us with a nominal $1000 limit. The activity on those credit cards isn't visible to either of us and we settled on a low limit so that it would be immaterial.
This way I don't complain that she spent $100 on her nails and $300 on her hair cut etc and then she doesn't complain that I went out on the town with the boys and spent $700-$800. I guess we realized if you just think of it as numbers, we wouldn't react as bad but when we used to see each other's silly expenses come across the statement, those used to cause more of an issue/arguments.
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More touching dirty card machines if your tap chip doesn't work. I have seen cashiers have to wipe them down after each transaction.
Canadian notes are now mostly plastic and can be washed (we've done it) or wiped.
I guess if you don't have any cash on you and your card gets compromised and the CCC puts a halt on it, then you aren't buying anything that day. A good excuse to make your buddy buy the beers!
Still easier to wipe the machine face after a transaction than to ask the cashier to handle the cash and wipe that down after every transaction. Thats taking one step and turning it into many steps let alone the time added, slowing down everything.
Wiping the machine also limits the human to human interaction that going cashless is achieving.
I suspect they have accounted for all that including the savings they will realize by not having to accept cash.
Well, there will likely be less theft. No one's till will be short at the end of the night. Could probably let go of 4-5 security guards. Maybe let go a manager or two who were in charge of counting the cash.
Still easier to wipe the machine face after a transaction than to ask the cashier to handle the cash and wipe that down after every transaction. Thats taking one step and turning it into many steps let alone the time added, slowing down everything.
Wiping the machine also limits the human to human interaction that going cashless is achieving.
Making a friend buy the beer? I'm all for that.
Apply/Google Pay is the way to go. Can't imagine life without it honestly.
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Apply/Google Pay is the way to go. Can't imagine life without it honestly.
Agreed. Paying with my phone is common place for me as well, followed by tap transactions. I have limited cash to whats been mentioned here. A small amount on hand for emergency purposes. Its convenient, fast, and safe.
It is dumb. People have used cash for centuries and most people are still alive. Is it a little dirtier and gross? Sure, but no worse than flushing a toilet in a public restroom. Plus, if 90% of people are using tap, there is very little money being exchanged and passed around. Germs should be kept to a minimum.
It's dumb when all the debit machines are down or a store is having connection problems and my card no longer works. I heard that there were no beer vendors in the stands at McMahon stadium for the first two Stamps home games because they were having difficulties with all their terminals. That's dumb and they probably lost out on a bunch of money. I feel bad for elderly and impoverished people who don't want or qualify for a credit card.
This comes across as a little change resistant, doesn't it?
I for one love change like this. Make it easier for me. I don't want front pockets full of loonies and twoonies from every beer or hotdog trip I make.
Happy to have blue tooth in my car, and a thermostat I can change from 300 km away in my house, online banking and banking apps on my phone that don't mean I have to stand in line at the bank.
to help them learn how to engage their fan base on a more personalized level. For fans, this means that they receive offerings, content and experiences that are tailored to individual fan interests.
Tracking spending patterns by going cashless sure sounds like a 1st step to all of that.
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Is this the end of beer vendors? I noticed they havn't been at McMahon this year since it's cashless as well.
They had issues the first two games with the mobil credit system so they were called off last minute, they have been there the last two games, though the last couple of years have seen them more and more restricted to certain areas which have lowered their visibility.
